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Thread: Captchas Now Testing on ss57 and ss60

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    Quote Originally Posted by black widow View Post
    again ive been trying to log in for over an hour and still not back in? And as captchas not loggin u off ur right it dont log u off it just freezes with the stupid little white clock goin round and round for over an hour? Followed by the stupid connection error again? Im spending more time trying to log in then actually playing the game? So summat tells me this idea is a major fail!!!!!! Oh and not sure if any1 else is havin the problem with the letters being overlapped or only getting half (if ur lucky) letters on the panel??? If ur gonna force this rubbish on us at least make it readable?????????

    evony fail

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    Quote Originally Posted by thierryd View Post
    A method to catch a b0t, would be to send random, unexpected information from the server; unnoticeable by players, but which would make the b0t react. Why evony does not develop this I do not know.
    First, you don't have to put a zero to make it b0t instead of bot.

    Second, as I have repeatedly said, Flash applications are extremely easy to decompile and look at the source code. Any "reaction" that you may be able to elicit from a bot would take very little time to isolate in code. To make this suggestion even remotely viable, there would need to be a new flash application at a minimum of every 3 days, with most likely a minimum of every day, so that the code that triggers the response frequently changes.

    That said, I can already think of another way around it, which would increase disk utilization, but is easy to do, as it operates on similar principles as message queues. It might make it to where people with lesser computers might not like the degradation of performance, but generally speaking, a botter will be off doing other things, so that may not be a concern for them at all.

  3. #1543

    Default How does this affect game play?

    How exactly does this work...I have the game up on my computer all day and I work from home so there will be times I'm afk for hours but I'm not botting...I just keep the screen minimized....is there a timeout on the Captcha that denotes a wrong answer?

    I don't really want to have to login/logout every time I leave the computer or come back

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    Greetings!

    As you may have noticed, we've implemented a "Captcha" system that works to remove bots from the server. Most players will only see a Captcha once or twice per day, and it will ask them to enter a few letters on their keyboard to make sure they are a real person (and not a pesky bot).

    We are testing this on server ss57 and ss60 as a precursor to rolling it out on more servers. We have implemented this in a way to minimize the effect on legitimate players, and maximize the effect on cheaters. Here's wow it works:
    • During your gameplay experience you will have a Captcha screen pop up at random while you're playing.
    • You have 5 tries to answer the Captcha, if you don't get it, that is considered one incorrect answer.
    • If you get 4 incorrect answers or you close the Captcha window, you'll need to answer Captcha correctly to continue playing.
    • If you solve a Captcha, it will be longer before you are asked again. If you get it wrong, you'll get another one sooner.
    • Most players will only see a Captcha once every few hours.

    Our goal is for the Captcha system to help clear the server of bots, give real players the advantage, and reduce problems with latency. We've already seen the Captcha system improving performance on the test servers. Captchas are part of our commitment to keeping Evony fun and fair for everyone!

    Thanks for playing and we'll see you on the battlefield!

    Best regards,

    The Evony Team

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    I don't think anyone has said anywhere that it'll get rid of the bots completely. However, it'll curb it and from what I'm reading those servers which currently have the captcha system in place have shown improvements.

    No it's not the best thing, but I for one can't ignore the fact that Evony are trying to ensure more players follow the ToS. I'm tired of everyone jumping on the "well what about the account sharers and multi accounters" train. They are breaking the ToS agreed. That said though the vast majority of multi accounters bot and most people started account sharing because of the account fillers and guess what botters. Even their best defended cities got wiped out by players who can just pop in there right next to them through flat fillers and demolish them with their endless amount of troops.

    Cheating begets cheating and the more everyone understands that we can stop with the ridiculous excuses of why people should be allowed to bot. People no longer invest the time to really produce the armies they all say they've gotten legit. In fact there are a tiny amount that may even come close to saying their account is their own work. Most have multi accounted and/or botted.

    So can we stop with the tiresome bleating about why captcha shouldn't be implemented and if you dislike it that much come up with another suggestion of how to successfully curb botting and stop giving those cheaters the victory they so desperately desire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neko_lord View Post
    Any "reaction" that you may be able to elicit from a bot would take very little time to isolate in code.
    Good point.
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    Just a ? about the market prices how are they now compared to before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay View Post
    I don't think anyone has said anywhere that it'll get rid of the bots completely. However, it'll curb it and from what I'm reading those servers which currently have the captcha system in place have shown improvements.

    No it's not the best thing, but I for one can't ignore the fact that Evony are trying to ensure more players follow the ToS. I'm tired of everyone jumping on the "well what about the account sharers and multi accounters" train. They are breaking the ToS agreed. That said though the vast majority of multi accounters bot and most people started account sharing because of the account fillers and guess what botters. Even their best defended cities got wiped out by players who can just pop in there right next to them through flat fillers and demolish them with their endless amount of troops.

    Cheating begets cheating and the more everyone understands that we can stop with the ridiculous excuses of why people should be allowed to bot. People no longer invest the time to really produce the armies they all say they've gotten legit. In fact there are a tiny amount that may even come close to saying their account is their own work. Most have multi accounted and/or botted.

    So can we stop with the tiresome bleating about why captcha shouldn't be implemented and if you dislike it that much come up with another suggestion of how to successfully curb botting and stop giving those cheaters the victory they so desperately desire.
    Thank you very much, well said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay View Post
    I don't think anyone has said anywhere that it'll get rid of the bots completely. However, it'll curb it and from what I'm reading those servers which currently have the captcha system in place have shown improvements.
    dont know about improvements, evony mods say yes, people here from the servers say no. i'm not either so dont know.

    ALL i know is the captcha i tried - deliberately brought one up to have a go lol - was a complete nightmare. many were unreadable, others i was convinced i had right, evony said no.

    IT HAS TO WORK!

    If genuine players have the experience i had today with it, well, i'm sorry but they wont pput up with that all day. it was really frustrating

    ---and i have no vision impairments, no dyslexia, and a decent size screen, i feel for those not so lucky
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    long time players have become accustomed to a style of play that was before captcha.
    previous improvements like the `hero glitch` and `caravanning`should of not been tampered with.Players should get a one time offer to stay with the old rules or move ahead with the new rules.(Still waiting for our one time chance to transfer acc from age 1 to age 2).you are in effect creating evony 1.5 which is a different game and is no improvement on either age 1 or age 2.leave the SS and earlier servers alone the ppl there have adapted to the gameplay style (even if they complain)they have not left.

    And Once ppl leave this time their will be noone to fill their shoes making claims by the company long term goals for more stabilityand fairness in Age 1 completely ludiicrous as they no longer even pretend to try and attract ppl to age 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by martyt View Post

    And Once ppl leave this time their will be noone to fill their shoes making claims by the company long term goals for more stabilityand fairness in Age 1 completely ludiicrous as they no longer even pretend to try and attract ppl to age 1.
    its more than not attracting, diverting new players automatically to age 2 is BLOCKING new people
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