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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    Greetings!

    As you may have noticed, we've implemented a "Captcha" system that works to remove bots from the server. Most players will only see a Captcha once or twice per day, and it will ask them to enter a few letters on their keyboard to make sure they are a real person (and not a pesky bot).

    We are testing this on server ss57 and ss60 as a precursor to rolling it out on more servers. We have implemented this in a way to minimize the effect on legitimate players, and maximize the effect on cheaters. Here's wow it works:
    • During your gameplay experience you will have a Captcha screen pop up at random while you're playing.
    • You have 5 tries to answer the Captcha, if you don't get it, that is considered one incorrect answer.
    • If you get 4 incorrect answers or you close the Captcha window, you'll need to answer Captcha correctly to continue playing.
    • If you solve a Captcha, it will be longer before you are asked again. If you get it wrong, you'll get another one sooner.
    • Most players will only see a Captcha once every few hours.

    Our goal is for the Captcha system to help clear the server of bots, give real players the advantage, and reduce problems with latency. We've already seen the Captcha system improving performance on the test servers. Captchas are part of our commitment to keeping Evony fun and fair for everyone!

    Thanks for playing and we'll see you on the battlefield!

    Best regards,

    The Evony Team
    Greetings!

    As you may have noticed, we've implemented a "Captcha" system that works to remove bots from the server. Most players will only see a Captcha once or twice per day, and it will ask them to enter a few letters on their keyboard to make sure they are a real person (and not a pesky bot).

    We are testing this on server ss57 and ss60 as a precursor to rolling it out on more servers. We have implemented this in a way to minimize the effect on legitimate players, and maximize the effect on cheaters. Here's wow it works:

    During your gameplay experience you will have a Captcha screen pop up at random while you're playing.
    You have 5 tries to answer the Captcha, if you don't get it, that is considered one incorrect answer.
    If you get 4 incorrect answers or you close the Captcha window, you'll need to answer Captcha correctly to continue playing.
    If you solve a Captcha, it will be longer before you are asked again. If you get it wrong, you'll get another one sooner.
    Most players will only see a Captcha once every few hours.

    Our goal is for the Captcha system to help clear the server of bots, give real players the advantage, and reduce problems with latency. We've already seen the Captcha system improving performance on the test servers. Captchas are part of our commitment to keeping Evony fun and fair for everyone!

    Thanks for playing and we'll see you on the battlefield!

    Best regards,

    The Evony Team

    am i correct in seeing this as a violation of the terms and agreements policy in which non botters agree too when we create an account? making a game changing feature without previous warning or retribution will be in violation of the terms and agreements policy?

    also ive seen several people address the farming issue , and the bs replies by reps about people with more time will have even bigger armies and so forth responses they have given.. well i have a question in AGE II isnt that the result anyway??? people with more time to be on have bigger armies than others yet no farming issues there??

    just a few questions that id like answered thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pantea View Post
    Your view is caked in blind devotion to those that cheat. The hero worship of those that do cheat. Its the only explanation to how passionately you arguing and throwing out half truths on the boards here. You more then likely sit on waiting for these so called big guns to come on and pander to them.
    I have no blind devotion for anyone. I respect and value the friends I have made in my alliance, if that makes me blindly devoted to them, I could scarcely think of anyone in the world I'd rather not have as a friend than you. I am mature enough to know that just because they bot they're not scumbags. Pull your head out of your rear and stop acting like you are better than everyone just because you decide not to cheat.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pantea View Post
    Besides I hear this number one complaint of have to, no you you don't. The game is a game of tactical and strategical play. Like a real life government you have to balance and plan for what you have. Botting takes all that away and is nothing more then a pander to egos inflated. Oh look at me I am so good I have such a huge army worship me.
    I am not condoning botters, condoning the fact they use them, but I am supporting the challenge they indirectly create. Evony itself is rather a boring game, the fact somebody can port in next to me with millions of troops creates a very exciting challenge. Whilst it shouldn't, nor does it excuse botting, it does add that challenge, which is one positive to glean from the many negatives of botting.

    I guess you have had bad experiences with botters to think that way, and that's regretful.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pantea View Post
    An so called programmers you know and the rest that will get around this. The end game will be the industry number one Captchas will be set, one that all this time has never been broken.
    The 'endgame' is that the few legitimate players left, like you and me, will eventually be driven out by anti-cheating measures that aren't working. I really wish you saw this. The bots will not stop, and their quest to eliminate them will only make playing the game for you even more difficult. Your 'blind devotion' to Evony's anti-bot crusade is only supporting the inevitable destruction of your fun.

    Soon you will be stuck with an annoying captcha to enter every thirty minutes and the bots.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pantea View Post
    So do me and the rest a favor, quit bending over backwards with such blind devotion, wipe your face, it has a brown spot on it and just be quiet.
    If this is how the majority of non-botters behave I'd rather play with the botters. At least they're respectable, well mannered people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoeRan View Post
    But of course, everything that is in the TOS is the god honest truth and can't be challenged in court, because Evony is always right.

    Fact is, if Evony doesn't deliver its service like promised, at the very least the unused coins can and must be refunded. It's a breach of contract and no matter what Evony put in the TOS, it still will be.
    Evony cant keep you from getting your money back if you used a credit card, dont use paypal they cant and wont do anything for you for fake vertial items.

    contact your credit card company directly, explain you wanna charge back all youve spent have ammounts dates etc etc. all you have to say is the games no longer playiable. Simple enough they will begin the charge back evony will ask you to stop, and holiday your account. email evony back tell them to fix the game or account or your gonna get the money, they will do whatever it takes to keep you and your money on this game. Believe me Ive been able to get my money back from games including evony several times or gotten my accounts fixed. Evony isnt perfect but they are greedy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neko_lord View Post
    Wouldn't having the time to play make them "decent"?

    Why is it, exactly, that you feel that "their" time is of more value than mine?

    Should people that put in more time and effort be punished for their time and effort by "normalizing" the rewards of time spent to be the same as not spending time and having a machine do it instead?

    Would this paradigm work if it was applied to a sport such as baseball, basketball, hockey, etc? Should teams that do not have time to practice be artificially boosted in the stats?

    People that "do not have time" should either play within the time constraints that they have and not feel like they're entitled to the same things that people that put more time into the game have, or they should simply not play.
    You make a very fair point, however I am just trying to present both points of views. People don't just bot so they can feel superior to their fellow man. There are other reasons to, and time constraints is one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeathsKiss View Post
    So i"ll have to allow pop ups on this game that is known to install some pretty nasty spy ware on its tool bar alone?

    Why should evony players put their personal security at risk?

    Why should evony players allow such access to their personal or work computers by disabling basic security features that keep our personal information safe?

    Why do we need to put ourselves at risk mainly because you cant come up with a better solution?

    I can see lawsuits happening left and right

    And i'll be one of them for being forced to disable the basic security feature "block pop ups" on my personal and work computers at the first sign of any security related issues that arise from this new feature.
    I dont care that much about "cheating" people will always find a way no matter what programs evony install.

    I'd like these real questions answered by evony

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusBrightleaf View Post
    You make a very fair point, however I am just trying to present both points of views. People don't just bot so they can feel superior to their fellow man. There are other reasons to, and time constraints is one of them.
    What about this isnt a battle ground dont you guys understand? Stop with the personal fighting and stay on topic. Geez you all are acting like children here who need a good spanking. Get over yourself already none of us is so good we cant lose.

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    It seems a lot of people have an issue with this but I personally think it's a great idea. Can't wait until it's on all servers and helping to cut down on botting.
    Please feel free to "Red Rep" me, I wants it!
    EPIC FIRETRUCKIN PHAIL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randorian View Post
    What about this isnt a battle ground dont you guys understand? Stop with the personal fighting and stay on topic. Geez you all are acting like children here who need a good spanking. Get over yourself already none of us is so good we cant lose.
    I have noticed it is the anti-botters who are talking down to everyone. What does that tell you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leche View Post
    It seems a lot of people have an issue with this but I personally think it's a great idea. Can't wait until it's on all servers and helping to cut down on botting.
    But it won't cut down on botting... You only think it will because Evony said it, and it's what you want to hear. The bots will continue, and then you'll be stuck entering this code every 30 minutes and the bots.

    I don't bot, but putting up with them is bad enough; I don't want to have to put up with anti botting measures that aren't working as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusBrightleaf View Post
    You make a very fair point, however I am just trying to present both points of views. People don't just bot so they can feel superior to their fellow man. There are other reasons to, and time constraints is one of them.
    If there was no need to feel superior, then the time constraint would also not be an issue. The argument that there is a need to "even the playing field" with respect to people that have more time would not be presented.

    If you stole money from your employer and told them that you did not have time to work overtime, but felt you needed the money, would you honestly expect your employer to forgive you and allow you to keep doing that week after week, while other people put in the extra time and were paid according to the hours they actually worked?

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