Sorry about removing the color, but too distracting for me.

Quote Originally Posted by Mistress Kitti View Post
Being spoiled and selfish is a direct result of disciplinary rights being stripped away.
This has more to do with parents being away from the child more due to being forced to work more. Other factors do include the level of commer******m that is exhibited today compared to other times as well as many other things.

Quote Originally Posted by Mistress Kitti View Post
Maybe it's your age, or lack of having raised children that gives some of you this line of reasoning? I dont know, it's certainly not my place to make assumptions, and frankly, it's none of my business. However, I am well versed when it comes to raising children AND dealing with those who seem to think they have a better handle on my children's life than I do.
You know what they say about assumptions eh? You are not the only one here that is well versed in this either. I don't think anyone, at least not me, has argued that we should hand authority to raise our children or have them tell us how to raise our own children. These agencies are there because children get abused both physically and verbally everyday. Though physical abuse has a more immediate effect, the verbal (and usually emotional) abuse is dealt with on a longer time table, we're talking about well into adulthood. There should be some protection.

It is because the level of physical abuse was so prevalent that we are now, unfortunately in my opinion, hypersensitive to any type of physical action. We don't like it but we have probably gone overboard with it.

Maybe I missed your point, as there were many, because your post felt more like a nonsensical rant. Kids are people too, and should be afforded certain rights as people. If we leave it all to the parents then we would grow up in a very repressed society as we had done so for so many years. This doesn't imply that they have the same privileges as adults do, however we also can't leave it all on the wise parent...even when they aren't that wise.

And parent's hands aren't tied behind their back as badly as you say they are, I'm sure that is an exaggeration. If you are in a restaurant and feel that you cannot discipline your child appropriately, then it is the parent who is failing the child...and the longer it continues the worst it will be I'm sure. There is plenty you can do, just because you can full out spank the child doesn't mean that you can't do anything...I'm sure there are plenty of parents that have dealt with the same situation successfully without spanking.