Japanpimp Battle Reports

[japanpimp]

Not reading all, not did breakdown. Just that leadership work different than all expect. 1 star do 110k leading troops, 5 stars 115k, and 9 stars 120k.
Don't know about 12, 14 and 15 or using HH, any set.
As all can see in dxcalc.com/age2, many reports work bad and for sure that isn't leadership per each unit (I posted a report 1 year ago about, each troops under optim but total over optim), even dxter tried round by round leadership changing.
I have final results, from where i say only that leadership affect the attack too not only the intel of heroes (thats not new), in a very strange way, but do same penalty to both (thats new if we make other supposition). arround 850 reports to see how...

I think evony not agree us to have battle calculator.
But better to know how to use us money to upgrade stars/gears, for both parts, players and evony.
A little help and i will say more. Until then im back to layers, too much to work here also.

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Good post. I also think that Evony does not want the players to make a battle calculator. So Evony made the battle mechanics very different in Age 2. That is why leadership, stars, gear influence the battles so much. Troop numbers also matter. There seems to be a penalty if too many troops are used in some situations. Bottom line is that we all still have alot to learn. Nobody understands how all of these things influence the batttles. That is why I am posting my reports and information so we can all learn from them.

The more battle reports we can read the more we will learn.

[acer5200]

Woldere, this is my battle report thread. I am here to post my battle reports along with other information. I want to provide reports and information and real world examples so others can learn.
Now, if players like yourself already have everything figured out for the most part then I guess there is no need for real world battle reports. Just battle calculators that you guys can make. But wait, everyone gave up on the Age 2 battle calculators because they cannot determine exactly how and when certain bonuses kick in based on hero attribute levels, star levels, gear levels, leadership levels, etc...

Where's Woldere? I miss him

So is it OK for me to keep posting my real world battle reports along with pertinent star level and hero attribute information and other info? Or is it all totally useless since all of you have everything figured out and can forecast battle results in every situation with a high degree of accuracy in Age 2? Nobody can. The workshop gear levels, hero attribute levels, star levels and star combinations, etc.. all make the calculations extremely difficult.
That is why I am posting real world reports along with all relevant info so we can all learn by examples.

Japan... I don't think you understand, so I'll make this in big bold green text for you.

EVONY IS NOT THE REAL WORLD. STOP REFERENCING THINGS THAT GO ON IN REAL LIFE WITH EVONY, AND STOP REFERENCING EVONY AS HAVING THINGS THAT ARE FROM THE 'REAL WORLD'.

EVONY IS 100% FICTION AND IS OUR LIFE AWAY FROM REAL LIFE. IS THIS HARD TO UNDERSTAND?

[japanpimp]

Um, Acer, why are you busting in here with large green text bringing up some silly argument about a term I use? I use the term real world. If you want to argue terms go do it in some other thread.
My Evony reports are real world examples. In the professional working world of technology the term real world can mean a non-test, non-beta environment. In other words, actual production environment. So when I say real world battle reports I am talking about unmanipulated reports, reports that are not setups, reports that are not from testing or beta or pre-production environments.
So, anything to add to my real world battle report thread?

[un3x]

i can say only lol, Acer

when someone invest alot of time and passion, any thing become a part of his life, of his REAL life that little misspelling mistake reflect something else, and the results will not be late. i prefer these ppl. they do more and they more happy

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[Oro]

JP I am not Woldere, I am Oro. Hence my name.
If you gave me a battle scenario with all the information I need I could tell you the result with 99% accuracy. Yes I will be off, but not by a lot, there is some unknown factor that makes it impossible to make a perfect battle calc but that doesn't mean that 99% of battle mechanics haven't been figured out. You are welcome to post any reports you like, you haven't let other peoples opinions bother you in the past so why start now? But when you start saying things like there is a curve in the starset bonus drop instead of a fall and present unsatisfactory evidence a battle mechanics nazi like me will come and attempt to correct you. If you had read my previous posts you would know that I have explained to you why the reports you provided weren't satisfactory evidence in the most logical way possible. Now you can either show more evidence which I will again attempt to dismantle or you can continue to rant about how we don't know anything about evony battle mechanics.

[japanpimp]

JP I am not Woldere, I am Oro. Hence my name.
If you gave me a battle scenario with all the information I need I could tell you the result with 99% accuracy. Yes I will be off, but not by a lot, there is some unknown factor that makes it impossible to make a perfect battle calc but that doesn't mean that 99% of battle mechanics haven't been figured out. You are welcome to post any reports you like, you haven't let other peoples opinions bother you in the past so why start now? But when you start saying things like there is a curve in the starset bonus drop instead of a fall and present unsatisfactory evidence a battle mechanics nazi like me will come and attempt to correct you. If you had read my previous posts you would know that I have explained to you why the reports you provided weren't satisfactory evidence in the most logical way possible. Now you can either show more evidence which I will again attempt to dismantle or you can continue to rant about how we don't know anything about evony battle mechanics.

Ok, then tell me the result of this battle if I had used a L150 HH instead of my queen.... with 99% accuracy.
http://www.inetassociation.com/evony/20110831-01.jpg
Then, I'll do that battle again with a HH and see how close you are. Remember, all you are doing is replacing my queen with a Level 150 HH with approx ~250 leasership and 90 base attack. Stars will stay the same. And that was as follows
8 gears to 15 stars, 2 gears to 14 stars, 1 gear to 11 stars, 1 gear to 12 stars, 1 gear to 1 star.

And P.S.
Anyone can tell me the results with 99% accuracy by stagging a battle with a "friend". They simply load their cities with similar heros and troops and do the battle then post the numbers from their war reports.
No, I want you to calculate it based on how you and others have 99% of the mechanics figured out. Should not take that long to do the math if you have it all figured out. Heck, just plug it into one of those ultra accurate Age 2 battle calculators that are never accurate. You need to post the numbers in 4 hours, max. You take longer then 4 hours I will assume you are stagging the battle somewhere with a friend in order to get the result.

[Domi]

Good initiative

But for this challenge to be "real". And for someone to come out with 99% accuracy, they need ALL the other variables that affect that battle one way or another.

As well as you need to run the battles with the exact same variables when you re-run it in real time.

[un3x]

I bet 10 cents, defender swordsman get penalized


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[anthonyleekch]

Where's Woldere? I miss him



Japan... I don't think you understand, so I'll make this in big bold green text for you.

EVONY IS NOT THE REAL WORLD. STOP REFERENCING THINGS THAT GO ON IN REAL LIFE WITH EVONY, AND STOP REFERENCING EVONY AS HAVING THINGS THAT ARE FROM THE 'REAL WORLD'.

EVONY IS 100% FICTION AND IS OUR LIFE AWAY FROM REAL LIFE. IS THIS HARD TO UNDERSTAND?

Sry to say this but this moderator is bit too arrogant. Post like this can be done privately. There is no reason to embarrass a player it such behavior.

[Nibus]

Japanpimp, I like you, I really do but I've yet to see a post from you that shows a willingness to understand the simple maths that combat is based upon. Don't take this the wrong way but get your calculator, pen and paper out and start with level one valleys, there is plenty that has been figured out in this game grasp that first then fill in the blanks.

ps that mod is an embarrassment.