How would you survive a zombie apocalypse?

[rasterbee]

Alby, you will run out of bullets. And you will run out of gas.

But great, you jump in a giant truck. A semi? Ok. How often do you have to stop for diesel? Where are you headed? So you have a semi and a tank? Awesome. That makes no sense.

The truck will get stuck on the highway among the cars and bodies.. You won't be able to move it. You can't just back it up wherever you want. You'll try and get stuck in a ditch. The tank doesn't exist, so you'll have to hoof it carrying only what you can. Exactly like how I have prepped.


I'm not over glorifying melees, you just don't fully comprehend the words I write. I plan on running from zombies, not engaging them. And yes, when I do choose to engage them I will use a melee. Gun shots are loud. You don't think these things through well enough.

You'll shoot up a group of zombies, zoom away your truck and move on. Why are you shooting zombies from the safety of a truck? You don't have bullets stock piled. (You have max 400-500 rounds, which I doubt you do. 100, like you listed before. Trigger happy you will run out of bullets by the end of the first week.) Then do it again. And again. And again. You have an unsustainable plan. You are the one allowing movies to warp your view of what a zombie infestation would be like. You can't land planes on rooftops and you won't be able to just drive forever, hitting up the BP when you run low on fuel and the Wal Mart when you're low on food and ammo.

Honestly, I can't read your posts in their entirety. You ramble incoherently then resort to personal attacks when you have run out of things to say. I try to pick out the important stuff but your format and color choice are atrocious.

[King Alboin]

Alby, you will run out of bullets. And you will run out of gas.

But great, you jump in a giant truck. A semi? Ok. How often do you have to stop for diesel? Where are you headed? So you have a semi and a tank? Awesome. That makes no sense.

The truck will get stuck on the highway among the cars and bodies.. You won't be able to move it. You can't just back it up wherever you want. You'll try and get stuck in a ditch. The tank doesn't exist, so you'll have to hoof it carrying only what you can. Exactly like how I have prepped.


I'm not over glorifying melees, you just don't fully comprehend the words I write. I plan on running from zombies, not engaging them. And yes, when I do choose to engage them I will use a melee. Gun shots are loud. You don't think these things through well enough.

You'll shoot up a group of zombies, zoom away your truck and move on. Why are you shooting zombies from the safety of a truck? You don't have bullets stock piled. (You have max 400-500 rounds, which I doubt you do. 100, like you listed before. Trigger happy you will run out of bullets by the end of the first week.) Then do it again. And again. And again. You have an unsustainable plan. You are the one allowing movies to warp your view of what a zombie infestation would be like. You can't land planes on rooftops and you won't be able to just drive forever, hitting up the BP when you run low on fuel and the Wal Mart when you're low on food and ammo.

Honestly, I can't read your posts in their entirety. You ramble incoherently then resort to personal attacks when you have run out of things to say. I try to pick out the important stuff but your format and color choice are atrocious.

I like my color choice, expresses my happy mood. Sad to think you still think you know what you are talking about, when your thinking involves me.

Admit you are wrong on the chainsaw, cuz I found an electric one that is solar powered and therefore trumps your arguement that "serious Zombie connoisseurs" scoff at chainsaws for a weapon against the Z's, but then see? I found some Zombie connoisseurs who actually do think chainsaws are great.

Admit you are wrong on that you assume to know my skill level at scrounging for things, and knowing where to find what it is I need and want. I know where the fuel is, and to consider that there aint no one watching anymore, scrounging would be that much more easyl. I have enough food onboard my truck, yes a semi, 2005 Freightliner Century Class witha Detroit Diesel, to last me for three weeks, right now. I do that in case I do get stranded somewhere. First rule of thumb for a trucker is to be prepared for the worst, and live like it will happen any second. Twenty years I have been a truck driver rasterbee, and you still think I goof when I give you a serious list of what it is that will help me survive this hypothetical fiasco? The problem is I can understand that you just dont know me. You are clueless, but that is not your fault. You've never met me. You dont know what kind of hell I've been through in my life, nor do you know my resolve. The same goes for what I know of you, which is nothing, as such I am clueless to who you are.

But yes, I do think I can drive for a long period of time and get to where I need to be to get the things I need for a continuance of existance. On a full tank of fuel [not gas, trucks dont use gasoline they use diesel, different animal] my truck can run 900 miles, it uses 5 gallons every 12 hours when sitting at idle, with the air conditioning running, coffee maker brewing coffee and such things like that. I have a 1500 watt inverter that turns all of my dc voltage into ac voltage, so I dont have to use a cigarette lighter plug to power my gadgets, I can run anything that has an electric plug, as long as its 115 volts and does not pull no more than 1100 watts. Over the past twenty years, I have done nothing but deal with semi trucks. Their breakdowns included. I dont know much of anything, that I wont stumble through, but I do know trucks and big motors, and I know how to drive like you aint never seen. I am a savant, when it comes to trucks, and a tank aint nothing but a truck on tracks. And to ease your troubled mind, I know where they are. and other things, but I aint telling. That is why I would go out and find me a tank. A tank, unlike a truck aint got rubber tires that will go flat. I am sick and tired of changing flat tires. Another reason for my choice of tanks, is that they have a really big gun. If you had read the list, and googled some things, that you did not know, you would of seen that the round I chose to stock my wonderful tank with, is more like a big shotgun shell, only huge. Since I go for mission capabilty in my thinkings, that is the round I would scrounge for. It may take me awhile, but I know what I am after. Another reason for choosing a tank is that it can be a rolling bunker against your fictional Z's.

also,

Admit you are wrong, in thinking I would just shoot up all of my ammo, you just said you would run, well lookie up further up the page and see that what I said was ...

any melee weapon will produce Zombie blood goo splatter, so, keep your mouth closed and wear your saftey glasses, but moreover, shoot and run, like Andrea did [great girl, she]

so in that your tiny ass chewing of me, was in reality confirming my advice to you. I never said, shoot all ammo up I said, that because of my experiences in real life, melee weapons suck, and I would always go for the hand weapon, but mostly run away.


As for insulting my driving skills? Seriously, rasterdaffodil, you have never seen me back up. Nor have you seen me drive foward. So you are lost as to what to think, and tend to think I will get stuck. Well let me clue you in on other facts, I used to drive a rock hauler. As a rock hauler my job was to get the load of rocks to offroad jobsites, and do that in a big truck. I know barditches, and I know how to take 80,000 pounds off road. Made a good living doing that. So aint no sprawled out traffic, like in WD gonna stop me from getting to where I need to be, if I absolutely dont wanna be stuck in it. Now I aint special like that, most truck drivers know how to do what I know how to do. and they aint gonna get stuck either.

and I do apologize to you, if you think I have been throwing out personal attacks your way. but remember, you started out by saying that you chewed my ass out for what I wrote. you set the stage. learn to communicate without harping on someone, and you will find you will not be harped upon in return.

[rasterbee]

King, my post wasn't edited. I know the difference between gasoline and diesel. I wrote diesel. This is a perfect example of you not reading what I wrote and replying to what you want me to have said.

Chainsaws are not good weapons. I assume you have used one before. I'm sure you've experienced what happens with the wood chips. You say melee splatter blood, then suggest that a chainsaw would be better? C'mon, you can easily see the errors in this, can't you?

No, you won't be able to scavenge nearly as much as you think you will. You'll be putting yourself in danger every time you leave your truck. You'll be facing zombies and other people scavenging as well. Everyone thinks they can scavenge, and everyone will be scavenging. I'm trying to keep you alive here with a better plan. Your experience as a truck driver doesn't in any way prepare or assist you for life in this reality. The truck will give you a pretty decent bunker/hiding place though. That's a plus. But without people to create electricity, you will not be able to pump any fuel. By the end of the first day diesel will not be available. Except for people like me, I have 500 gallons of diesel at my farm in an elevated fuel container that only needs gravity to work. (It's for our tractors and a Kabota mini-truck ATV. Because I have a farm. Where food grows.)

Face protection is important, you're absolutely right. Not just for melee use but also for close quarter fire arms. I apologize for not mentioning it earlier but this is something that I have already prepared for as well. I debated masks, police helmets, things of that sort. But those limit vision and hearing. So I ordered 100 medical masks from China a few months ago, only cost $6. I also own several pairs of safety glasses, un-tinted and sunglass style for those bright days.

I did not at all insult your driving skill. I know how difficult it is to turn around a large truck, I've done it. I didn't suggest that you would get into an accident, I said you would get stuck on the highway. Sure, your truck is heavy and huge and can push cars and trucks out of the way. But there will be road blocks of vehicles on the road. You'll get past a few, but then find yourself stuck. I trust you can drive across the median of a highway just fine in your truck, but what about when there's concrete dividers everywhere, vehicles blocking every single direction and you only have a few feet to pick up up the momentum to smash through all of it? I am sure you have incredible control and knowledge of your truck, but every mile you drive you run the risk of yet another dangerous cluster jam.

You mock the possibility of this reality, which is fine. But you don't realize it's just a giant metaphor for the collapse of society in any manner. Peak oil, nuclear war, full economic and globalization failure, or just plain old absence of law. We are already the walking dead and if a great collapse happens, it won't be much different than zombies. People won't care about you, they'll kill you for a glass of water. Being on the road does put you in a much better starting position than most others. You're way up high off the ground, you lock your doors and close the windows and you're good. But you only get one tank of fuel. There won't be any fill ups for a long time. And I'm not selling my diesel at any price. Not even for bullets, I have shotguns and all the supplies and knowledge for this to be a non issue.

Again, my only goal is to teach you. I don't want you to die. I hope sometime in the near future you sit back and realize, "oh wow, raster was ....right. I won't be able to find any fuel. I will run out of bullets much faster than I expected. Chainsaws are terrible weapons against the undead."

[Fresh420]

Like i said Get a sword doesnt matter what kind just get one! guns run out of ammo * what ya gonna do smack the zombie with the butt of the gun** lol ***GAS**Gas will run out....what ya gonna put in that there chainsaw of yours when you run out of gas and oil??? poopy Taha funny...Need to keep watching them Zombie movies people...See the mistakes most make in those movies? aww whats that noise * runs up to zombie hello there sir are you ok*!! haha poopy he's dead can't you see his face and the blood? don't walk up to it just kill it or run away...whats next you see a zombie you gonna ask him if it wants to buy some girl scout cookies? Tahaha poopy aye

chainsaws are lil heavy even sometimes for the biggest guy..so they are slow in combat also...me i prefer a sword *katana* or a couple machettes<--sorry cannot spell today or any other day lol...but i love swords and they will never run out of ammo...But i see in movies people using semi auto matic guns..blah get a shotgun one shot zombie dead..with semi auto you pretty much miss target if far away but up close you can get a pretty good kill...with a handgun never use it to shoot a zombie keep the bullets for yourself..if you happen to get over run by zombies * if you don't want to become one of the undead shoot yourself with the handgun*

[King Alboin]

King, my post wasn't edited....
but I did read, and you actually said both ...

Alby, you will run out of bullets. And you will run out of gas.

A semi? Ok. How often do you have to stop for diesel?

so it is clear you know about diesel, I understand now, however we truckers dont call it gas, we call it fuel, an idiosyncratic term for truckers to know who aint a trucker and who is.


Chainsaws are not good weapons. I assume.....


I actually like the solar charged electric chainsaw. If not used for a melee weapon, the pic I first posted was a joke, an attempt at silly humor, and it failed with you, but I can live with that, cuz you wanted serious. I gave you serious, and you called it a laundry list of survival gear. and even as a "lol" I said you could not handle serious, my way of serious. So here we continue. Have you read the list yet? really really read it? But the chainsaw issue can be put to rest. here. I agree and do not dispute the Z blood goo spray issue, tis why I said to close your mouth. And yes, I have used a chainsaw, and learned to close my mouth or eat a bung load of hardwood. I tell you though this, that particular chainsaw would have a great purpose, which is this. Take for instance the idea of a herd [yes, some things in WD are worth looking at] [still morons though] A chainsaw, can be used to cut down trees, lodge pines if they are around, or sapplings of oak or maple, heck even the soft yellow pine. Take those trees, use the chainsaw to sharpen the ends into points, and use them as a barracade fence, to surround your food and toilet. Should you ever make it to your family farm. Just a thought. It would take a lot of effort and personal energy, but much better than using an axe and a maul wedge.

No, you won't be able to scavenge nearly as much as you think you will.

Yes I do, I know for certain. Danger is danger. Starving to death is as dangerous as getting ate to death. Decide the merits of both and make a decision. I have made my decisions, based on my needs, which are in both lists. My resolve will either feed me, and keep me in ammo and sunflower seeds, or I die. I just am prepared to bet my life on me, trust me, and no one else. I am more streetwise than you seem to suspect I am. later on you say something about something, I will take the time to again & inform you of some things. I know you wont believe me, but I know people, I can feel their intentions, way before they have them. Its not magic, its a sense that comes from years of dealing with "unsavory" kinds of butt you know whats. I go to cities like detroit, chicago, memphis, new york, houston and newark amongst others, on a regular basis and deal with whomever is present according to how they need to be dealt with. in other words ... I aint skeerd. Cautious, untrusting, wary, but not frightened. Why? because I know my limits both on the weak side, and on the strong side. Just take it for granted that I know what I know and have survived for 51 years, just fine. So? other scavangers wont be a problem to me.

you should really really read and contemplate what is on those lists. I worked hard on them. I found a site that had the basic, and edited it to suit the needs I know a human man needs to be comfortable, sanitary and clean in a survival sichyashun.


You'll be putting .....
ah ^thats it. answer'd it =)

I'm trying to keep you alive ....
your plan is good for you, it works for you, if you can just make it to your farm. I will agree that a plan is necessary. A goal is paramount to keeping the mind from depression, and finding an utter sense of "all is lost". Everyone who wants to survive needs a plan, giving them purpose. Mine is to find a tank <---- purpose. Stock it with items I scrounge that is on the lists <---- detailed plan for the purpose. Detailed so that I dont waste bullets on side purposes, or food and water on ghost hopes.


The truck will ....
Mighty decent of you to say fuel. K .... I have a siphon, sold at every big truck stop, that runns off of a drill. Just plug an pump. Also there is this trick I learned from an oil rig hauler. Where there is a will, there is a way around it to a better way of doing it. see?

By the end .....
yes you prolly use red diesel. and a tractor and a lil Kabota is great actually, if you get there. that is. hope you do. and that Kabota runns on diesel? sweet beans there. diesel dont varnish like gasoline

But but but. see I answer'd this one also. lets say it hits the fan, and I only got half a tank. thats 450 miles to me. there are a lot of diesel tanks in the ground or on trucks that tipped over within that 450 miles for me to scroung through. then drive to the next scrounging area. and believe me, I wont be a moron and just go balls to the wall into an area I aint scoped out yet. I would be under no illusion that the world has changed. or the level it had changed to. for unlike most. we truckers are the first to know stuff. before anyone else does. so I would already be in split and git mode, thinking of ways to activate scrounge mode. I know is sounds brash, but I can not tell you enough I know what I know because I know how I know. As for others? yeah, but not as many as there was awhile ago; is my view on the matter.

Face protection is .....
Good, going. those are very handy, and sanitary. No one will know wtf. I can not even begin to guess how or why the infection hit, or what type it is, ie airborne, blood borne, spit borne, bird pooh borne, and would prefer to not take chances. I like the fact that you have medical masks. paint sprayers masks will work also, even a paint sprayers respirator, with changeable filters. not as heavy or cumbersome or heavy as one thinks either. for a paint sprayer, [for anyone who has painted a car] has to manuveur all around that car, in all kinds of positions to lay his spray pattern even and smooth. so fighting in them wont be all that much more different than without one. they may cost just slightly more but worth the investment for a bugg out bag. [note to self ... great idea rast, ... add one to first list]

and we do agree on safety glasses. no prob there.

I did not at all insult your driving skill. I know how difficult it is to turn around a large truck, I've done it.....
No, wont happen. I can drive across offroad in one of these things. Let me try to convince you. I sit in a lot of traffic jams, day in and day out, in different cities, or even in the by ways where there aint nuffin around. k ... the second rule of thumb for truck drivers is to leave yourself an out, at all times, look for a way out, or do not get into a sichyashun to whars you will get boxed in. 20 years, is a long time looking and finding ways out, rasteranastrepha'striata. I spend my day making on time deliveries. now I have been late, on occasion, but never have I missed a delivery. everything I have loaded, I have delivered. dont make it in this industry if the contrary is true. Believe me, I can get out, if I want to get out.

You mock the possibility of this reality, which is fine.

Correct, I do mock it. yes not denying that.

But you don't realize it's just a giant metaphor...
Yes I am aware of this, the preppers call it WSHTF. but the realness of WSHTF is not Zombie SH'ingTF. different animal in my book. When the real stuff hits, if it does, or when ... who knows. But the times then will be different, and I really get to save on my ammo. Dealing with noZombied humans takes on a different scenario, but the lists remain the same, cept for the tank, unless I find a wandering tank patrol who needs some toilet paper and some mother green and beer, and they will let me drive it. =)


We are already the walking dead ....
I dont agree, it would be a great deal of difference than a Zombie'fied world. for one there would be a lot more people no strolling around looking for brains. to be honest I would much more prefer to have Z's than any other situation. for at least during the lawless period, there wont be that many people after my beer and sunflower seeds. Zombies dont like sunflower seeds.

take the fiction out and put in facts. then we need to start another thread. My plans then would be totally different. but the lists, both of them would remain the same. even with the addition of a respirator. except the tank =(
Again, my only goal is to teach you. I don't want you to die. ....
you may have sold me on the chainsaw part, but I think it would still serve a great purpose in fortificationing temporary strongholds.

the rest?

I appreciate it, but I am of no concern to you.


Cows die, Men Die, but the only thing that men will remember is the honesty of your name. Odin ~ the Havamal

I have edited cuz of the limits on letters, nothing more.

[rasterbee]

Have you read the list yet? really really read it?

Yes. Of course it's a good list. It's extensive as hell. But you don't currently own all that stuff. That's the point. Your list should be what you actually have.

you should really really read and contemplate what is on those lists. I worked hard on them. I found a site that had the basic, and edited it to suit the need

See? You don't have these things. I could make the most perfect list in the world too, but that doesn't make them instantly appear in my possession. If you want me to take you seriously, then act like it. Don't just ramble about what you want to have. Talk about what you actually have in front of you.

I have a siphon

True, good point. I won't deny that fuel will possibly be available to the resourceful and brave, but it will constantly put you in danger while doing it. That is what I'm trying to teach you to avoid.

and a tractor and a lil Kabota is great actually, if you get there

Again, true. I run the risk of getting to my destination. But my risk only involves 90 miles, I won't attempt it until I see it is absolutely safe...I may never leave, while your risk is constant.

that Kabota runns on diesel? sweet beans there.

Yeah, it does. It's an amazing little machine. So much fun, top speed is only 30 MPH because of the governor, but that's fast enough to outrun any zombies. The governor will be taken off the day after my grandfather passes, one of his sons is a Cummins mechanic and is itching to get it out of that engine. It was a little under $20k, my 87 year old grandfather's last big purchase. He traded in his Artic Cat ATV and old Crown Vic as a down payment for it, it's brand new, we just got it a few months ago. It's exactly like this, except the front windshield is made of hard molded plastic, not the flimsy stuff:



....it's so cool.

I sit in a lot of traffic jams, day in and day out


Orderly traffic jams are completely different then the disorderly mess that will result.

you actually said both, diesel and gasoline.

Where? Which post?

EDIT: ...he was right. Crap. I know better than that.

We disagree on several key points:

Availability and easy access to supplies.
Safety and usefulness of melee weapons vs. Firearms
(Given unlimited fuel) Your ability to drive endlessly around whatever nation you live in

I don't believe either of us are willing to concede on these points. I firmly believe it will not be safe to scavenge anywhere, that fire arms are a last resort weapon because of the rarity of ammo and the noise they cause, and that your truck will absolutely run into an impassable situation forcing you to desert it.

[dabest]

what you need to survive is a homade flamethrower an areosol can and a lighter. 1st place i would go would be Cabela's (a hunting store with with about over 50 different guns) i would get a pistol (preferably a .44 mag) and you can't go wrong with a melee weapon like a machete (no i will not use a pocket knife nor a bowie knife i don't want to take a risk at that machete is a sharp long knife ) then head over to Walmart while here make sure to get plenty of water and some crackers and peanut butter (ahhh peanut butter :P) also plenty of rubbing alcohal just incase you or a companion gets bit it might be your luckyy day (if you don't know what that is your a backwards country inbreed) and finally go over to a Prison (yep going Walking Dead :P) and of course repopulate ;P

watch out and don't look back my friends

[King Alboin]

Yes. Of course it's a good list. It's extensive as hell. But you don't currently own all that stuff. That's the point. Your list should be what you actually have.

I dont actually believe that there will ever be a Zombie attack. Those lists are for Zombie attacks only. What I do actually have in my truck, I aint gonna list, nor divulge my inventory. Let it be sufficient to know that I will only need to shop for 23% of what is on that list. I will not type into words the actual 77% I do have.



See? You don't have these things.

I do have 77%. My bugg out bag and pack is extensive. But it is not designed for a fictional Zombie attack. It is designed for getting stranded, for REAL life things, like hurricanes, tornado disasters, breaking down out in the middle of no-where, nuke attack [as long as I aint one of the lucky to be vaporized]. What I have will, if necessary keep me, warm, dry, fed, clean, sated and comfy in the desert, wood, plains, city street, or what have you. NO one can absolutely prepare for an "unknown whatever ". that is ludicrous. Like you state, you have your stuff 90 miles away from you. Even then, a roving band of bikers could take out and take over that farm. I am not wishing anything like that on you or your family, I am just stating a plausible, could happen.

possession. If you want me to take you seriously, then act like it. Don't just ramble about what you want to have.

I dont live like that rasterbumblebee, I dont live like everything is going to pooh in a hand basket. I do have 77% of what I listed, of course I dont have a tank, but the subject of this thread is how would you survive a ZA. and I told you. But you want me to be serious about a fictional event, that will not ever happen in anyones life time.

I can separate reality from fantasy. Obviously its a unique trait, o.O.

Talk about what you actually have in front of you.

I once shared with this community an event that could of killed me dead upon dead, but it didn't. I was so dammit happy I was still alive and thought to share that. With the exception of ONE person on this forum who knows what's what in the real world and was happy I was not dead, the rest of what I got, was a bunch of punks who dont know shtuff from shinola goofing on me and what happened. So I dont tell about my real life experiences no more, cuz I can not reach into my computer and shake the snott out of punks who think their shtuff dont stink because they have yet to grow up and be men and realize how stupid they actually are. Instead they sit in their fantasy world, knowing they can say whatever it is they want, cuz I can not shake the snot out of them. In the real world where folks can get to them, they are probably realy nice, for if they were not, then they would be left in a dumpster for the trash man to haul off, to dump them in a deep hole, amongst the same trash that they have become.

but k, you want to know what is in front of me?

this is my truck ....

{pic of a truck}

and this is what I face each and everyday of my life, and what I have faced for each and everyday for the past twenty years ...

{pic of butterscotch candy wrappers on the street}

So do you still think, I give a hoot about danger? I live it everyday. Oh and by the way? I delivered that load, ontime. Now you see why I would prefer a tank for a fictional Z attack. But in the real world I hate changing tires, I'll do it, cuz the load must be delivered, so that those punks who goof on me will have plenty of diapers to wear and acne medicine to soothe their pimply faces.

I won't deny that fuel will possibly be available to the resourceful and brave, but it will constantly put you in danger while doing it.

as above and as I stated in a previous post, I would make my decisions, based upon my needs. death from starvation and an unsanitary environment is just as dead as death from a poor little Zombie just looking for a bite of fresh brains every now and then.

That is what I'm trying to teach you to avoid.

again, I aint skeer'd. knock knock, why wont that sink in?


I run the risk of getting to my destination. But my risk only involves 90 miles, I won't attempt it until I see it is absolutely safe...I may never leave, while your risk is constant.

yes, everyday I wake up, I take a risk, a calculated risk. But that dont stop me from venturing forth. I mean, really? the way most people drive in this country make me look foward to the peace and serenity of a good ole apocalypse. Can you imagine it? *sighs* no more red lights, no more idiots slamming on their brakes, no more morons yacking on the phone while they vere off into my lane, no more dispatchers bishing at me about my log book, no more troopers writing $1200 tickets for a "T" that was not crossed correctly, no more whiney ash load planners, ahhhh if only if only.




....it's so cool.

yes it is, I agree.


Orderly traffic jams are completely different then the disorderly mess that will result

I dont know what traffic jams you're used to, but the ones I get stuck in are in no way orderly. Must be a perspective thing.

We disagree on several key points:

Availability and easy access to supplies.

If you know where to look, the rest is elementary, my dear rasterdragonfly


Safety and usefulness of melee weapons vs. Firearms

Indiana Jones: Sword vs. Gun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DzcOCyHDqc

nuff said

(Given unlimited fuel) Your ability to drive endlessly around whatever nation you live in

I would of course have to put a time limit, "endlessly" and "unlimited" I do not think are words I used. The main goal would be to drive as far away from the most populated areas, as quickly as is logistically possible, and build up a fort, of some kind. from what is left, of civilization. I would think shipping containers would work nicely. And then maybe organize a biker raiding party, and do forays on survival camps.

I don't believe either of us are willing to concede on these points. I firmly believe it will not be safe to scavenge anywhere, that fire arms are a last resort weapon because of the rarity of ammo and the noise they cause, and that your truck will absolutely run into an impassable situation forcing you to desert it.

well then if that be the case, then I will go out in search of my wonderful tank. =), and start all over.

on a side note, about WD ... think, if laurie had not threw up those pills, and given what is known about the Z-infection. Oh my MOD, can you imagine what would of happen'd to her womb? a Zombie fetus? Now that would be a real horror flick. no joke

[Fresh420]

blah blah you all would die... a flame thrower???? really come on now...your not gonna have walking dead Zombies coming towards you but now flaming Zombies walking/running towards you..if Zombie's are like the movies then you need to kill the brain..flame thrower is just gonna set them on fire and slowly kill them...better have a fire extingisher handy your gonna need it when those fire zombies keep coming towards you and your pathetic flame thrower lmao...

rubbing alcohol? really????? Zombie bites are danger once bitten you become one of the undead no flipping alcohol is gonna help...( if these zombies are like the ones in the movies) your better off just leaving your buddy there with a handgun and hope he does the right thing..* bam ( kills himself) or you could do it for him...just gonna be harder for you to kill him later once he turns...

here's my list of things i would do:
1.SWORDS/crossbows/bows- me i have plenty to share lol
2.Shotgun if you have one already laying around your house..
3.go to cupboards grab what ever food you have in there don't matter if its canned corn or hot chocolate grab what ever is in there.
4.cloths-just in case you kill a zombie and get all bloody ( i know i wouldn't wanna be driving/walking around all bloody...
5.grab a couple gasoline containers and heads towards the first gas station or farm house you see fill up car/truck/semi/4 wheeler or what ever you drive..and then fill up containers.
6.if driving..take out the windows and replace them with something metal/like barb wire or chicken wire ( if you have any of these) zombies breaking through glass..blah your sure to get cut.. lmao
7.rope/tent/lots of empty soda cans..( if this all went down id find a nice spot to camp out for a few days so would want my campsite protected so i can hear if anything comes close.. sorta like what they did in the walking dead tv show..camp for a few days then move along..Zombies will most likly move on also so path should be good to go.
8.if you run low on supplies go to nearest town..but send out scouting partys first( if you find yourself with a group of people)..don't just walk into town thinking your gonna be good..gotta scout just like in evony gotta get a report on what your gonna be dealing with.
9. so thats done scouting party comes back..they tell you only a few zombies around town..so grab your bows and crossbows( silent but deadly) take out the few Zombies that your scouting party seen..and continue see a store don't be greedy grab what you need to survive for a few more days then LEAVE..
10. check radios on a daily basis to see if anymore survivors are around the area.


just a quick list of things i would do and grab Tahaha...

[King Alboin]

blah blah, double post, blah blah blabb

Fresh? you are a veteren of these forums, you KNOW you can not double post here. this is the third time you have double posted. cease and desist before the Mod squad yanks your .... off =\