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    Quote Originally Posted by Snott View Post
    but I am interested in knowing if there is such a thing as an undefendable attack? and Chuck Norris dont count!!!
    multiple scoutloaded mech attacks timed to land at the same time will always kill troops, no matter what the defender sets up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImInsane View Post
    multiple scoutloaded mech attacks timed to land at the same time will always kill troops, no matter what the defender sets up.
    thats "multiple" is there a single?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snott View Post
    Dont know who first worked these out >> scout bomb, cav/phract smack, mech hits etc etc



    but I am interested in knowing if there is such a thing as an undefendable attack? and Chuck Norris dont count!!!
    by undefendable do u mean a one-hit break attack, or an attack that will always cause damage? all attacks cause damage to the defender, however the main issue is maximizing the damage the defender takes. in that case u need to rely on ur skill and ur knowledge of various attack types in evony. scout bombs for instance will always cause damage however can easily be deterred by a multitude of warriors or a good setup of swordsmen. mech waves are very powerful however will cost a lot to rebuild if they fail or u use a bad hero. ram smacks are great against compact defense or taking out layers once rangesetters r gone. they r great when paired with ballista. archer bows r the most common attack known to evony and can easily be customized to do more extensive damage to ur opponent depending on their layering. pikemen waves r mainly to annihilate cavalry/phracts. jaqs,cav smack, and phract smacks r great for taking out 200k-1 mill archers on one hit depending on ur hero once u take out rangesetters and other layering. mini cav+scout bombs take out walls(except ats) quickly. there are many other types of attacks utilized by evony players everywhere, but these r the most commonly known. rep me if this helps lol
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    Yep.... catch them offline.... which appears to be the preference of the majority of players these days

    Otherwise, no, there is always a defence if you know what you're doing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snott View Post
    thats "multiple" is there a single?
    Quote Originally Posted by Khalee View Post
    Yep.... catch them offline.... which appears to be the preference of the majority of players these days

    Otherwise, no, there is always a defence if you know what you're doing
    Nuff said!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalee View Post
    Yep.... catch them offline.... which appears to be the preference of the majority of players these days

    Otherwise, no, there is always a defence if you know what you're doing
    Quote Originally Posted by ImInsane View Post
    Nuff said!
    so the answer is NO... or at least no one has found it yet
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    As stated, Scout Bombs used to be able to actually lower loyalty and capture cities even - if you weren't aware.

    As far as Jaq creating his famous Jaq attack - we were accomplishing these same attacks on server 27 well before Jaq was printing his nice layout and creating a website. Granted, his addition of balli and pults only further served to increase their effectiveness so gotta give props there.

    I'd suggest that there was no singular 'creator' other than maybe someone who took components and labeled them with some addition. Jaq's theories on movement have been proven inaccurate - and even commented on in this thread.

    All being said, back in the starting days of Evony, the ability to effectively use Cav for massive kills was a major differentiator. The next great thing was the outright mech hit, and of course the mech cutter. If you dont know what that is....well good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snott View Post
    so the answer is NO... or at least no one has found it yet
    No, the answer is just no. No one will ever find an undefendable single wave.

    On topic-
    People seem to credit Jaq with inventing the Jaq. Seeing as his are some of the oldest guides on the subject and... well... people still it a Jaq Attack... I think that would make sense. Sure Jaq was wrong about a few things- but hell, I'm pretty sure no one has a perfect knowledge of the game even now. It's not too far-fetched to believe he was at least one of the very first to come up with it.

    For SBs-
    http://bbs.evony.com/showthread.php?t=51612
    Arislan credited Pokey with originally coming up with SBs. How true that is IDK, but it is a start and probably more accurate then any other claim you'll get now, 3 years after that guide was written.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HackNSlash View Post
    No, the answer is just no. No one will ever find an undefendable single wave.

    On topic-
    People seem to credit Jaq with inventing the Jaq. Seeing as his are some of the oldest guides on the subject and... well... people still it a Jaq Attack... I think that would make sense. Sure Jaq was wrong about a few things- but hell, I'm pretty sure no one has a perfect knowledge of the game even now. It's not too far-fetched to believe he was at least one of the very first to come up with it.

    For SBs-
    http://bbs.evony.com/showthread.php?t=51612
    Arislan credited Pokey with originally coming up with SBs. How true that is IDK, but it is a start and probably more accurate then any other claim you'll get now, 3 years after that guide was written.
    Ardee came pretty damn close to finding an undefendable series of waves but he manipulated tech levels and its not a single wave so it doesnt count

    Nice job on finding the Pokey reference, and like you said there is lots that is not known about this game even now ... I personally think that the ages of evony creativity have long passed us, brought about by a staling game, and a smaller number of things to 'discover'. That said I am positive that some alliances on certain servers have discovered some things that they are not willing to share with the masses.

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