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    This is nothing to do with whether players bot or not, and everything to do with revenue.

    If Player A gets the gate breaker and applies it to Player B, then Player B either loses his army or his res. If he's online he cannot defend (counter-attack is a ridiculous suggestion in this context unless Player A is a complete moron, Acer go and sit in the corner) and so has to use coins to prevent a total loss. They have to port, truce, holiday or quickly buy a package and hope for a gate breaker themselves, all of which is a total waste of money forced on the player by these stupid items.

    This is awful, and the arguments in their defence are pitiful. Now people are saying, "well it's only for an hour" and "there's only a small chance of getting one". So what the hell is the point of it all?

    Let's all hope it's a damp squib that disappears after a while.

    Meanwhile, how about fixing numerous and well-known bugs, such as people being able to join the alliance of their choice? How difficult can that be? Just make the alliance case-sensitive in the code and the job is done.
    I'm not ch3ating but I think my alt might be

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    All I know it's I'll be in holiday until this ridiculous thing is over. I'm not risking losing heroes I've been building for 2 years because some noob spends 30 bucks

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium79 View Post
    All I know it's I'll be in holiday until this ridiculous thing is over. I'm not risking losing heroes I've been building for 2 years because some noob spends 30 bucks
    So that's $1 a day from you, then. Who's next?
    I'm not ch3ating but I think my alt might be

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mary Hinge View Post
    So that's $1 a day from you, then. Who's next?
    a dollar a day, excuse me. Try 10 dollars a day since it cost 20 for 2 days. And that's for Holiday only. I think what evony did was a joke and a half. But they don't care cause they are the ones making money off of what';s suppose to be a FREE GAME.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyBrown View Post
    a dollar a day, excuse me. Try 10 dollars a day since it cost 20 for 2 days. And that's for Holiday only. I think what evony did was a joke and a half. But they don't care cause they are the ones making money off of what';s suppose to be a FREE GAME.
    10 game cents a day = $1
    I'm not ch3ating but I think my alt might be

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    lol yeah it's only a dollar a day and that's bad enough. $10 even for greedy evony would be a bit far

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    for those that think this is "great" your clearly new and dont play on a ss where you have worked hard for a long time to set up what you have. bots or no bots it doesnt matter, so stop going back to this. if someone coins and sticks your gates open, or closed...with state full, (no...no emergency flats because people will actually take them and port in on you...shocker huh?) your toast...

    now for the people saying that you need to change your defense....please tell me how you change your defense when you have 40 camp timed waves to the second timed at your city...gates stick shut at the last second. no time to port, what do you do? take a beating? loose billions of res or troops...loose your hero? i for one would love evony to explain that to us...but they cant

    im slow clapping for evony now, you have successfully managed to blow your game up, congrats!

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium79 View Post
    lol yeah it's only a dollar a day and that's bad enough. $10 even for greedy evony would be a bit far
    dont give them anymore "wonderful" ideas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antrav View Post
    for those that think this is "great" your clearly new and dont play on a ss where you have worked hard for a long time to set up what you have. bots or no bots it doesnt matter, so stop going back to this. if someone coins and sticks your gates open, or closed...with state full, (no...no emergency flats because people will actually take them and port in on you...shocker huh?) your toast...

    now for the people saying that you need to change your defense....please tell me how you change your defense when you have 40 camp timed waves to the second timed at your city...gates stick shut at the last second. no time to port, what do you do? take a beating? loose billions of res or troops...loose your hero? i for one would love evony to explain that to us...but they cant

    im slow clapping for evony now, you have successfully managed to blow your game up, congrats!
    Yep exactly. Please enlight us evony and mods what 'defensive strategies' we can use against the above? we can't use troops, we can't save our resources and if we are offline and have no gold our heroes we have worked on for years, run.

    All I can say is evony is going to be seeing a whole lotta charge backs from this stunt, and rightly so. People have put time and money into building their heroes and accounts. Evony has now changed the playing field therefore they are entitled to their money back.

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    Holadiee,

    First of all it is nice to see that evony representatives are actively responding to this topic. Cause obviously some kind of mass panic broke out over this new features. However, it would be helpful if they would read posts a bit more carefully and respond to some of the questions that are asked;

    1. Will the defender get a notification if/when one of these items gets applied to their city?

    2. What happens at loyalty 5?

    Some other questions were asked as well but since i can't remember them I'm going to assume they were not very important.

    Now, on to my opinion regarding this matter. As far as I'm concerned I think evony is to be complimented and bashed at the same time. The new items are interesting and an improvement to the game.

    Since this topic is just about the 'broken gates' item I'll disregard the other items, and seeing no one is complaining about them I'd say evony did a good job on those.

    First of all, I think the big trouble in this discussion is the difference between servers. So it might be good to let everyone know from what server you are. I myself only play on ss57 so I will first comment on the situation there.

    The way war is fought right now is as follows; A city gets surrounded by red cities that carry an upkeep varying from -1b to -5b. For arguments sake let's say your city has the same amount of troops and you have 3 reds porting in. This means you're outnumbered 3-1, which is fine. Assuming there are enough npc's around they will all take 2 or 3 npc's for extra rally spots. This means they can send 90-120 waves at once. Which is fun

    Now, what to do when, on a sunny afternoon, you find yourself in this situation and they brake your gates to stay closed? After that they send 1 archer wave to kill your walls and 9-12m transporters after that. All I've heard so far are 3 options, truce, holiday, or get plundered. Assuming you don't have the same item to unlock your gates.

    The first two are ofcourse valid options but not much fun. The third option is even less fun.

    Acer suggested you could attack back and the attackers would, for some reason I am unable to understand, panic and leave. Unfortunately most of the people on my server are not so easily thrown off. So that's not an option.

    Because I'm a nice guy I will now explain the awesomeness of the only correct way to counter this item.

    There you are, your gates are closed, you have 150b resources and 12m transporters are marching towards your city. The reds are jumping with joy and the prospect of plundering 120 billion cities gives them a little orgasm.

    Luckily on ss57 there is always the option of releasing a flat somewhere to port into. So you bring out your evil grin and wait for the attacks to get close. A few seconds before they hit, when you see the drool dripping from the faces of your enemies, you port.

    YOU PORT?

    Indeed you do. However, the awesomeness comes now. Right after you ported your city out, you, or ofcourse a willing buddy, ports in another city at the exact same spot. On ss57 this is easy to do with a random port since the server usually has no empty flats. The city you port in to replace the broken gates city opens gates and kills 12 transporters. Fun fun fun. They'll probably have noobs on autoport since they're evil reds who bot like crazy so it is possible that a noob lands in your spot instead of your own city but that's ok too. You don't get to kill he trans but at least you keep your 120b resources.

    So that's the situation on ss57 and I assume the same applies to most older servers.

    I don't think anyone is worried about losing cities or heroes due to not being online. Cause everyone knows everyone is always 'online.' The only people that will lose cities and/or heroes are the people without bots or alliances. And they will have lost them already anyway.

    This ofcourse, answers the real issue with this item. People who are actually following the rules of evony are indeed screwed. This is not a problem at all on older servers since no one actually follows these rules anymore but it might effect the newer servers.

    My suggestion to evony would be to just implement these changes to the old servers cause we have the ability to enjoy the fun of them.

    The conclusion of my story, evony, is that you have faced your players with a choice between 2 evils. The first one is obeying the rules of evony and losing your cities, heroes and resources. An unacceptable choice for those of us who have invested time and money. The second one is breaking the rules, putting our account on a bot and share logins with our alliance.

    For the few players out there that haven't gone for the second option yet I suggest you do that and enjoy the possibilities these new items give us.

    And to end on a positive note, overall I think this might be fun.

    Ciao

    PS: answer the questions posed in this comment and a lot of earlier comments.

    1. Will the defender get a notification if/when one of these items gets applied to their city?

    2. What happens at loyalty 5?

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