You guys are making me rethink my decision to come out of retirement. I left the game more than 2 years ago, when bots were starting to take off, but we still kicked butt without them. I plan on rejoining my origional alliance and if I find that they are all bots, as a founding member and first 10, I will be forced to start a new alliance, where bots and multiple alts get kicked. See if we can try to reclaim a little dignity and class in a world of cheats. If nothing else the social aspect would improve from the way you guys are discribing it's current incarnaton.