The Wall is UP!

[SiphonXP]

To the windowwwwww, to the wall, to the wall!

[Balaam]

A few days ago, the wall went up around the World to divide the internet into two seperate entities. The two seperate entities are now "known as" the North and Western Europe and the Asia Pacific zones. (So much for the World Wide Web, I suppose?)

Anyhoo...

I quite liked my WorldWideWeb because it gave me the chance to meet and talk to people all over the World and that was good.How do you feel about it? You thinks it's ok? Really? Oh well, now I'm stuck in a zone with you guys and between you and me, one of us is crazy and I don't think it's me.

the world wide web is actually a better description than the internet
the www is just a very large wide area network (wan)

by very large i mean... well, world wide


just like with any wan, to improve performance and security, the network and its users need to have particular settings enabled

the question you have regarding being segmented from the rest of the world by what you experienced can be answered by these settings

however, the truth is... you are segmented (or restricted) as is everyone
the web is more than just cables, each connection has a server, each server has security and audit

every computer has a mac address that is unique and everything you do is monitored and recorded

each point of connection to the web (node) is tightly controlled
you and i live in australia, the government has restrictions on web addresses for these nodes, the black list is confidential and according to the government the restricted sites are all dodgy so you shouldn't want to see them anyway if you are a fair dinkum aussie

in china the same thing is in place and the government of china has their own measure of what is acceptable for the people of their nation
they recently had a huge falling out with google and even though it made the news, the particulars were never revealed

every country has a similar security entity that decides what you can and can't see when you access the web from one of their nodes and how much they record as far as your internet activities

so, to summarise, what you experienced is nothing to worry about
however, your point is valid and it's much more invasive than you ever imagined

[Rodri]

Balaam, I'm aware of the hub that has been built near Melbourne to monitor all digital signals and I am aware of the reasons given, i.e. to catch criminals and hackers and intercept suspected terrorists broadcasting coded messages or raising militancy. I am also aware that England, the USA and China and Russia have all recently commisioned similar hubs, most on a far grander scale than ours, simply to deal with the volume of traffic generated by the larger populations.

I am not at all convinced that it's nothing to worry about.

[King Alboin]

"fair dinkum aussie"

Interesting continuance of this thread.

I accept that there are bonds and bars on the dubba dubba dubba net. What I find happening is that even though there are bonds and bars, the web will find a way to circumvent them all. Key words can be tagged for closer scrutiny, yet language is not set in exact definition, so tagging key words is fruitless, in the degree that the Georges of this world want it be.

Those in charge have always wanted to enclose the societies under their control. Be it land, shore line, 12 miles off the coast for example, which has now been redefined as 12 miles off of any claim to a soveriegn rock, such as to the degree of what is happening in the south china sea.

Rodri you had a point in the truth thread, where you mention that those who can not distinquish a lie from the truth will inevitably be manipulated for the rest of their "bleek meaningless life" < -- my words not yours. However I agree with you assessment and ascertion that those that do not try to discover the truth will succomb to the tunes of the Pied Piper.

Those that try to enclose land and sea, air and space, are also seeking to enclose cyberspace, thereby controling the aethernet. Ideas are very dangerous for they expose the lies of George.

The enclosement of the web, can only mean that George is trying to manipulate thought, your thought, your ideas, your culture, your beliefs, your praises, and your complaints. Cant have that now can we? Freedom of thinking what the frankenfurter we want to think, now can we. Why it might lead to better way of life, and more freedoms.

Just like land is power, the ability to control the sea lanes of trade is power, knowledge is power. Those in power, dont want nobody to have that power, cept them.

I would conclude with the thought, that ... yep, mayhaps something to worry about. at least to continue to seek the truth about it.

[edit to add, "hows it taste"] < --- inside joke

[Rodri]

[edit to add, "hows it taste"] < --- inside joke

It's a bitter pill to swallow, it put's a lot of people off.

[Balaam]

I am not at all convinced that it's nothing to worry about.

i agree totally

it's always scary when a government agency not only has the power to restrict your access but also restrict the knowledge of what is being restricted (even in a general sense)

of coarse... i guess we don't need to know what they choose not to tell us :\

EDIT
^^^when i re-read this it made my head hurt more than when i wrote it

[Rodri]

i agree totally

it's always scary when a government agency not only has the power to restrict your access but also restrict the knowledge of what is being restricted (even in a general sense)

of coarse... i guess we don't need to know what they choose not to tell us :\

EDIT
^^^when i re-read this it made my head hurt more than when i wrote it

It's ok. It's hard to get your head around this stuff because we have been fed so much chaff that we don't know what is right and what is wrong any more. Not only are the hubs designed to block some sites but they, in coalition with big-name online companies are monitoring everything digital. Every call you make, every site you visit, every comment you make and every brainfart you might tweet. 99% of the time it will mean nothing but do the 99% need to be spied upon because of the actions of 1%?

The internet is changing as we speak. It's in a period of transition now which means we can still talk about almost anything (within the ToS) without ramifications but I can assure you, it won't be like that for long.

You do realise that anything stored on your computer can be scanned and deleted as well? Obstensibly it's to catch hackers and pirates and break their buisness model (and that may be true) but it's still very intrusive. What's the other thing they keep telling us?
"If you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to fear."


Oh yes, King A., sorry but I may have been thinking of a different inside joke and if you were refering to the 'other' inside joke, you had better ask Lisa.
That's a clue, here's another: think primary colours.

[Nishinta]

Bring down the wall!!!!!