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    So Faunus, you completely skip the part where you guys did the same things to other alliances in the game. no, you didnt npc the 16s on them, you just made sure they were defended by weak heroes so that people wouldnt suspect what happened.
    Trouble is, your people talk. And it got out, and the rest is history.
    You guys made so many enemies, not by your gameplay, but by your attitudes.
    Have a look at just how many people you guys ticked off, anyone of them could have figured it was time for your own medicine.

    If Grid was hacked, remember, it was Grid and co who hacked first. What goes around comes around.
    You just cant act that way and expect everyone else to play by the rules.

  2. #22

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    If Grid was hacked, remember, it was Grid and co who hacked first. What goes around comes around.
    You sure about that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLO View Post
    So Faunus, you completely skip the part where you guys did the same things to other alliances in the game. no, you didnt npc the 16s on them, you just made sure they were defended by weak heroes so that people wouldnt suspect what happened.
    Trouble is, your people talk. And it got out, and the rest is history.
    You guys made so many enemies, not by your gameplay, but by your attitudes.
    Have a look at just how many people you guys ticked off, anyone of them could have figured it was time for your own medicine.

    If Grid was hacked, remember, it was Grid and co who hacked first. What goes around comes around.
    You just cant act that way and expect everyone else to play by the rules.
    If you do not remember correctly, it was Covert that caused a lot of the losses by them reinforcing a hero to MC. That's when we were able to kill off 2 million archers. Everything after that was Covert's fault. 1. Having an inactive player hold a 16. 2. Never checking to see if your players let in other players. 3. Not having trustworthy players in officer positions. Was it a low move on our part? I would say a little bit, did we cheat? I am pretty sure everything we did was under the TOS or Evony rules. It was not an alt account that went into Covert, it was a friend. The player was obviously accepted by a player of Covert. Thus, no rules were broke.

    Now, if you are trying to say that beating someone fairly (Did not break any rules) is the same as hacking someone's account, npcing Atlantis and a 16, releasing over 20 hhs, and dismissing over 200 mil troops (55 mil archers,110 mil warriors,10 mil swords, and 2.5 mil ballista) is the same, then obviously you have something wrong with you.

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    And i totally understand your logic. If you guys cant beat us, then hack our accounts, npc all of our stuff, then make us quit because we literally just lost everything we spent our time/money on.

    The only thing we messed up with was not putting a security code on the account. I guess Grid/Reborn never thought his account would be hacked and that would be an issue. So seriously, i cannot stress this enough, put a security code on your account. Especially if you bash heads in and make enemies.

    A few helpful suggestions i have told players in Zoo. With Facebook, make sure that your information (Things such as hnm/uprise) cannot be seen by other players. You also might want to mess with your privacy settings so that only friends can look up your account. This can be done by going to privacy settings-how you connect-edit settings. There will be three options, who can look you up with your email or phone number, if you want to be protected, change this so only friends can look you up. The other 2 are for friend requests and messages.

    The reason for the above information is that you DO NOT want somebody to get your Facebook id. If they get your id, they can find out your email used with Evony, and also do a few damaging things to your account without actually assessing it. The main thing is protecting your account, especially if you spend a lot of money with it.

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    Faunus, you missed the part where DemoCrew openly admit to ghosting accounts. They openly admit what they did was wrong.
    As for breaching ToS? Well, they also openly trade accounts, sell and buy them, run multipe accounts, use bots, basically use every advantage they can get. So dont sit there and say they didnt break ToS or rules, because in all situations, they did.

    You know its true, you even went to them to try and work out a straight story for it.
    Seriously, i agree what happened sucked, but, if you are going to play with fire, expect to be burnt.

    Dont come here complaining about stuff when you are as dirty as everyone else.

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    [QUOTE=cushseth;1959791]Evony refuses to use IP addresses as reasoning for banning people or reinstating accounts, and there's a lot of valid reasons for them to feel that way. IP Addresses are thought to be static, but anyone with a little computer know how knows they aren't, also several players could share the same IP.. all that kind of crap.



    Well you are wrong on that they won't use IP addresses. Someone in my household used the "coin glitch" (I could have when I won cents off the wheel but did not). I refused to use it but guess what..... not only did the person using it get banned but cos my IP address is the same they banned my accounts too. Despite numerous e-mails requesting my account back with the servers I have played for well over two years, they are simply ignoring me and I am left without my games.

    Don't ever think that Evony don't trace your IP because they do frequently.

    Thanks a bunch Evony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLO View Post
    Faunus, you missed the part where DemoCrew openly admit to ghosting accounts. They openly admit what they did was wrong.
    As for breaching ToS? Well, they also openly trade accounts, sell and buy them, run multipe accounts, use bots, basically use every advantage they can get. So dont sit there and say they didnt break ToS or rules, because in all situations, they did.

    You know its true, you even went to them to try and work out a straight story for it.
    Seriously, i agree what happened sucked, but, if you are going to play with fire, expect to be burnt.

    Dont come here complaining about stuff when you are as dirty as everyone else.

    You are just filled with accusations aren't you? Now here is the part that i love about this game, one alliance and one alliance only (Usually the top alliance) are the ones that do not play fairly. I am unaware of Demo ever ghosting into other alliances, i am sure it could have been several other alliances that do the same. That's kind of the reason we had to change our name on 38 because we had ghost accounts coming in. Now are you certain that Demo was the one who was always ghosting? As for Demo players admitting it, that's hearsay. You must present evidence for the publication or accusation of any rumor.

    As for the other "cheating" that is done, multi-accounting, buying accounts, bots, alts. That's not specific to just my alliance. Go on a new server, see how many people sell accounts and hhs, then tell me that they are all players from Demo. It happens server wide, every server, players feel the need to sell. Bots and alts are the same deal, every alliance has players that use them, but there is no point in blaming the whole alliance for a few players.

    Now you want to know something that is not specific and evolved into part of the game? Hacking, its not right whatsoever. Point being, those who live in glass houses should not throw rocks. You shouldn't be bringing up the "cheating" one alliance does when its specific to all alliances in the game. Unfortunately its become a part of the game. Some players just choose to cheat. Now there is a line, obviously destroying an account that someone spent 9 months/over $10,000 dollars on is far greater than just the things some players to do. You know why? Because its a personal attack, botting, alts, buying accounts gives a player a competitive advantage. It does not directly destroy accounts by illegal means. You want to take someone out from the game? Build the troops to fight them or put together an attack with your alliance, if you win, you can take their cities, keep the heroes. Hacking an account? Unacceptable and fair over the line.

    Here is a thought, quit trying to place the blame on the person/alliance that was effected by this. That's like saying oh yeah i murdered the dude, but he cheated on his wife, so he deserved it. That doesn't hold up. Also, please stop making faceless accusations that you cannot prove. The forum rules prohibits accusations anyway.

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    lmao

    never knew an account holder that was hacked that didn't break TOS in one way or another, sharing logs to keep a city defended 24-7 always runs the risk of getting the account npc'd. In all the servers I've played never knew an Atlantis holder not to run an alt, bot, share logins, or exploit some glitch at some point. Hard to really believe this is the one exception....nothing wrong with trying to get an advantage but when it comes back to bite someone in the @ss, get off the pc and do something productive...........don't invest your money and time into something when that risk is always there unless you can deal with the slim chance of it happening.

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    Some many accusations of cheating...in before the lock!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Faunus View Post
    Here is a thought, quit trying to place the blame on the person/alliance that was effected by this. That's like saying oh yeah i murdered the dude, but he cheated on his wife, so he deserved it. That doesn't hold up. Also, please stop making faceless accusations that you cannot prove. The forum rules prohibits accusations anyway.
    Aren't you accusing someone of hacking someones account? You can't prove his account was hacked. And if you guys hacked other accounts then other people were effected so these people are just standing up for them because they didn't come on the forums like you to voice this because someone finally fought back.


    Quote Originally Posted by Faunus View Post

    As for the other "cheating" that is done, multi-accounting, buying accounts, bots, alts. That's not specific to just my alliance. Go on a new server, see how many people sell accounts and hhs, then tell me that they are all players from Demo. It happens server wide, every server, players feel the need to sell. Bots and alts are the same deal, every alliance has players that use them, but there is no point in blaming the whole alliance for a few players.
    Those people didn't come here to complain like you.

    Stop complaining because someone returned the favor to you.
    Last edited by Rickie; 07-27-2012 at 05:00 PM.
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