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    how bout limiting the fix to HC's?

    don't see anything wrong with that, most players quit cause their 16 has been taken and they get drafted every day for months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TentPig View Post
    lol. you think?



    naaaaah. that requires THOUGHT. They'd rather take what they've learned from the the multiple guides other people have written and then complain when that doesn't work, rather than attempt to figure out new methods of game mechanics on their own.
    cynical nonsense, believe it or not but not everyone conforms to your view of whiners, do you really believe all the ppl advocating a change to comforting havent attempted to figure out other methods of beating bots etc?

    instead of trolling, why dont you put that apparently intelligent mind of yours to use and come up with some ideas

    and stop repeating the whole "evony needs to fix the root problem bots" and "what about the weak players", bots are not gonna be fixed for the reasons i and many others have mentioned, and the change is meant to help the small players yet still prevent the comfort defence from being something a player can use indefinitely

    personally as ive seen mentioned, i believe such a change would be best applied to 14s and 16s only, these are elite assets that should be defended properly by the holders and small players arent likely to be holding them


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    Quote Originally Posted by tipperary1 View Post
    personally as ive seen mentioned, i believe such a change would be best applied to 14s and 16s only, these are elite assets that should be defended properly by the holders and small players arent likely to be holding them
    Let's at least add Atlantis to that list Folks are now talking about capping Atlantis and not worrying about defending it because they can just comfort it. Granted, those folks rarely have the skills to take it, but that shouldn't be a reason not to make it comfort proof.

    Why wouldn't you add 12s to the list as well? Why should a player be allowed to draft his/her attacker from a city they can't defend? What's the justification for that?

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    sorry yea atlantis too obviously lol, but 12s are small scale and not that important, let the smaller players have em


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    Quote Originally Posted by tipperary1 View Post
    instead of trolling, why dont you put that apparently intelligent mind of yours to use and come up with some ideas
    talk about about pot and kettle pfft

    Quote Originally Posted by tipperary1 View Post
    and stop repeating the whole "evony needs to fix the root problem bots" and "what about the weak players", bots are not gonna be fixed for the reasons i and many others have mentioned, and the change is meant to help the small players
    because fixing the problem would be bad and new players aren't needed and oh yeah, that's right, everybody already cheats anyway and it's not in the best interest of the the parent company to enforce the rules... blah blah blah

    the most ridiculous premiss i've come across in months
    bots can misuse comforting, and multi truce and build and... basically play evony for you

    so what to do?????
    1. change the game to deal with the bots?
    2. deal with the bots to fix the game?

    so here's my last thought on this matter

    why not instate an evony bot killer NPC alliance
    made up of 10 bots
    when a player is detected running a bot, evony launches an all out attack on the player 'in game'
    the evony server would know every command that the bot was sending and be able to attack appropriately, this bot killer NPC would have barb type heroes and racks
    evony could also disable any multi truce applied
    that attack would run non stop for 5 days and/or stop at loy 1 for every city, leaving those cities ripe for the picking

    i think people would really think twice about running a bot if that came raining down on them and your alt problem would go away and we'd be back to the pre bot days

    i guess you'd actually want to clean up the game and have some clever software developers

    so nevermind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balaam View Post
    talk about about pot and kettle pfft
    i do troll, but not useful threads or those where decent intelligent convos are going on

    and while this may be a childish phrase "takes one to know one" applies


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    Quote Originally Posted by Balaam View Post

    ......everybody already cheats anyway and it's not in the best interest of the the parent company to enforce the rules... blah blah blah.....

    ....the most ridiculous premiss i've come across in months....

    so what to do?????
    1. change the game to deal with the bots?
    2. deal with the bots to fix the game?

    so here's my last thought on this matter

    why not instate an evony bot killer NPC alliance
    made up of 10 bots
    when a player is detected running a bot, evony launches an all out attack on the player 'in game'
    the evony server would know every command that the bot was sending and be able to attack appropriately, this bot killer NPC would have barb type heroes and racks
    evony could also disable any multi truce applied
    that attack would run non stop for 5 days and/or stop at loy 1 for every city, leaving those cities ripe for the picking
    But why come up with all these complicated, convoluted ways to fix it when they could just ban the bots? No need for clever developers there. And no need to explain why that probably wont happen, you explained it yourself up there right?

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    Balaam, I think your suggestions of how to clean up the bot problems are simplistic. People charge back when they feel like Evony has cheated them (yes, the irony is not lost on me). So if Evony does things such as npc-attacking players or, simpler, banning/suspending them in an effort to enforce rules they had not previously enforced, it's running the risk of not only losing future revenue, but also losing past revenue. I have never spoken to any Evony representatives about it, but I suspect this is the reason for not addressing the underlying issue of bots at least on existing servers. I continue to hope that Evony will address botting on new servers, as they are released, either by creating an Evony-sanctioned bot, or by suspending botters before they invest into the game.

    Certainly bot detection cannot be the issue - it seems we can all figure out who bots. Nonetheless, Evony is not banning those players. Let's assume there is a revenue-related reason for that (although it is Free Forever to those players who chose to treat it that way, it cannot be free for the company to maintain and release all those servers, after all). Let's further assume that Evony will continue to desire to stay in business, and thus not ban everyone who bots. Both of those assumptions appear reasonable based on past experiences. Now, with that in mind: what can be done about cities that are comforted 24/7?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tipperary1 View Post
    instead of trolling, why dont you put that apparently intelligent mind of yours to use and come up with some ideas
    Why is it outside your realm of comprehension that you should really be demanding, as a customer, that evony abide by the terms of service they purport to expect you to adhere to?

    If you go to the theatre to see Batman, is it acceptable that the theatre play Spiderman instead? Do you just sit and watch it, even though it's not the movie you wanted to see or pay for?

    I posted a simple method earlier for bot detection... When receiving a truce command at the server, have the server check to see if cool down is in effect. If it is, you know the player is botting, because the client will not allow you to apply a truce in cool down. Then, ban the player. End of problem.
    Last edited by TentPig; 07-31-2012 at 06:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QueTee View Post
    People charge back when they feel like Evony has cheated them (yes, the irony is not lost on me).
    Why would you not think that a player, when unable to save his cities, even though online and not botting, would likewise not institute a chargeback once he thinks to himself "this is b.s." and quits?

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