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    Quote Originally Posted by Balaam View Post
    if it were useless, why do you think i don't want it changed?? if it's already useless then why do you want it changed??? you've inadvertently made a valid point, comforting will not save your city if the attacker is determined
    because whos an entirely legit player these days

    and i swear to god if you make 1 more post about evony enforcing their tos


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    Quote Originally Posted by Balaam View Post
    Tony, just because you think you've stated facts doesn't mean that your logic isn't flawed, if you can't take a city because someone is botting then please tell me how fixing anything except botting will fix your problem?

    the issue you have you believe that "because i said so" is fact.

    i've played age2 and i've seen historic cities capped
    just because you can't do it doesn't mean it can't be done

    the weakness seems to be in your resolve to cap a city that isn't an NPC
    You are delusional

    Yeah who would ever want actual facts or real experiences thrown in a discussion......I apologize to you for leaving out the irrelevant nonsense.

    I never said anything about not being able to cap HC's (read my post's before making yourself look like a complete fool claiming to know what I can or can't do) I've done it numerous times.....re-read my posts before spewing complete ignorance about what I've said or haven't said. You can fabricate any little story you'd like about my style of play or character but anyone that reads what I say will more than likely laugh off your ignorant accusations as I do.

    I never believed my logic to not be flawed but unfortunately for you no one can refute anything I've said other than the "generic" oh blame the bots or it isn't fair I want my stuff forever ridiculousness. Granted the removal of bots will fix a lot of in game issues it would also more than likely dig Evony's hypothetical grave when it comes to revenue. Bot's are too far engrained in the system and minds of players for it to be a nice easy quick fix.

    ONCE AGAIN.......My complaint has never been about botting in this thread as you and your fellow bubble thinkers keep saying it is and that it isn't fair to you that you loose a city when it's left undefended. For the 47th time my argument is based on the possibility of the endless cycle of comforting and the ability to keep something forever BOTS OR NOT. How many damn times do I have to repeat that. I've beaten bots, stolen countless HH's and pvp'd and have captured every type of hc off players with the exception being 0,0. Again I'll say my conquest's are irrelevant to the comforting discussion and I'm sure someone who lacks any valid points will call me about for being arrogant or egotistical because they simply have nothing better to do. Unfortunately though I can't leave out examples of my winnings because of complete ignorant comments like you post clearly lacking the ability to keep pace with the discussion like an adult.

    My argument has never hinged on what other people do it's from my experience ATTACKING players in my Evony time. You've already claimed to not be in the attacker crowd so I wouldn't expect a simple farmer defensive minded individual to understand the issues that the offensive players constantly deal with. If you don't feel it's right to loose your city because you can't defend it or lack the battle mechanic knowledge to prevent people from attacking you.....just say it.....I don't care......I would be happy for you to admit it and leave it at that.

    Blaming bots isn't an argument on why it's ok to have the ability to keep an item indefinitely.

    Claiming I can't take cities isn't an argument either for why it's right you have the ability to keep an item indefinitely.

    Claiming my logic is flawed but not providing any reasonable insight on how it's flawed (remember the THREAD is on fixing comforting) isn't an argument why it's right you have the ability to keep an item indefinitely.

    When your done making up completely outlandish ideas in your head about how I play the game feel free to re-read my posts and then form a big boy argument on why it's right you have the ability to keep an item indefinitely. I even double dog dare you not to use the word "BOT" or "FAIR" in your arguments about why you feel COMFORTING is fine the way it is. I haven't used either word in any of mine on why I think a change would be a good thing.
    Last edited by xTONYx; 08-16-2012 at 08:14 PM.

    I say the comforting change is a step in the right direction, I argue facts and real ongoing situations of the matter...
    You dream up ideas that don't exist and STILL blame botters and STILL feel it's fair to have something forever in a war game...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tipperary1 View Post
    thats speculation though, whos to know how itll affect the game, maybe hoards of old players will return, maybe everyone will quit. in what way are evony obliged to take the risk?
    Speculation.....who knew! Why argue the facts and real evony experiences when you can just fabricate scenarios to fit your way of thinking, possible lack of skill, and inability to accept loss?

    edit: i would rep that post but my button is broke for some reason
    Last edited by xTONYx; 08-16-2012 at 08:09 PM.

    I say the comforting change is a step in the right direction, I argue facts and real ongoing situations of the matter...
    You dream up ideas that don't exist and STILL blame botters and STILL feel it's fair to have something forever in a war game...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tipperary1 View Post
    because whos an entirely legit player these days

    and i swear to god if you make 1 more post about evony enforcing their tos
    i actually don't remember ever saying that they should enforce the TOS except to say if the problem is cheaters, maybe that is the solution

    and regarding your first question, i can only speak for myself
    i don't play at the moment but in the time i played between world 6 and na40 i never botted or shared my details

    i was called a cheat in the forum because i knew about the fact you could quick click a gift in facebook and get a second ammy from time to time
    apparently i was also a cheat because i used the valley glitch to move troops and i'd drop alliance to take a city about to fall to a red, or give a new member a hero or a city but as far as breaching the TOS... nope

    i did lose cities and i did save them by comforting but meh... i guess that's not really important if you can't beat a bot
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    Lets put this real simple for those on here who seem to fail at seeing logic.

    If Evony enforced its TOS and banned botters.....

    People would just share account details to comfort every hour.. Evony can't fix that as many people log in from different IP's all the time or share an IP with others.
    Evony cant simply allow one person per IP or 90% of us would need to quit.

    If Evony changed cooldown on Comforts.....

    No amount of botting or account sharing will save your city, you would need troops and skills.

    I think the 'Troops and skills' part is whats scaring half the posters here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay View Post
    What makes you think that starting to ban players wouldn't make others stop. After all who wants to lose their account after they've spent so much on it. If it's becomes noticeable that the worse offenders are permanently banned, it will stop end of.

    People will still continue to coin regardless.
    yup throwing convicted criminals in jail stops all other crimes......giving out drunk driving tickets definitely keeps drunks off the road......gun regulations stop people from shooting each other.....

    Someone earlier said your posts were eloquent.....don't recall the definition of that word relating to "in fairy tale land" in any way.

    I'm sure if you take the cake away from the fat kid that will fix the problem too.

    I say the comforting change is a step in the right direction, I argue facts and real ongoing situations of the matter...
    You dream up ideas that don't exist and STILL blame botters and STILL feel it's fair to have something forever in a war game...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntahh View Post
    Lets put this real simple for those on here who seem to fail at seeing logic.

    If Evony enforced its TOS and banned botters.....

    People would just share account details to comfort every hour.. Evony can't fix that as many people log in from different IP's all the time or share an IP with others.
    Evony cant simply allow one person per IP or 90% of us would need to quit.

    If Evony changed cooldown on Comforts.....

    No amount of botting or account sharing will save your city, you would need troops and skills.

    I think the 'Troops and skills' part is whats scaring half the posters here.
    umm sharing your account details is against the TOS as well... fail
    if evony changed the cooldown the bots would be updated...fail
    if you have troops and skills you can take a city...fail

    sorry i understand your point, but you fail at making a valid argument that comforting needs to be changed, what needs to be changed is the opinion that cheating is rife and to stop cheating is impossible

    if there were no cheaters, we would not be having this argument
    the problem is not comforting, comforting was part of evony before the bot and is a valid strategy for saving your city (at least in the short term)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balaam View Post
    but you fail at making a valid argument that comforting needs to be changed,
    oh the irony.....

    I say the comforting change is a step in the right direction, I argue facts and real ongoing situations of the matter...
    You dream up ideas that don't exist and STILL blame botters and STILL feel it's fair to have something forever in a war game...

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    If Evony did take a harsher stance on upholding their ToS why are you all so against it? Makes me wonder.

    The only pro-comfort change poster that actually gave a half decent argument is Blah, the rest of you have done nothing but pick and make snide comments. Your side has become nothing but a farce. No personal offence meant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balaam View Post
    umm sharing your account details is against the TOS as well... fail
    if evony changed the cooldown the bots would be updated...fail
    if you have troops and skills you can take a city...fail

    sorry i understand your point, but you fail at making a valid argument that comforting needs to be changed, what needs to be changed is the opinion that cheating is rife and to stop cheating is impossible

    if there were no cheaters, we would not be having this argument
    the problem is not comforting, comforting was part of evony before the bot and is a valid strategy for saving your city (at least in the short term)
    I just printed that in its most simplest form to show you how your side of the argument is an ultimate fail.

    There is no way to stop bots/macros/mouse clickers/account shares.

    Ban a bot - new one is made..
    Macros - undetectable
    Acc sharing - undertectable
    Alts - un-provable

    Feel free to attempt a reply to that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay View Post
    If Evony did take a harsher stance on upholding their ToS why are you all so against it? Makes me wonder.

    The only pro-comfort change poster that actually gave a half decent argument is Blah, the rest of you have done nothing but pick and make snide comments. Your side has become nothing but a farce. No personal offence meant.
    You might want to re-read comments from people on your side also Morgan.

    Since you guys cant help but de-rail this thread then answer me.

    How will Evony stop Acc Sharing, Macros and Alts?

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