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    Quote Originally Posted by Eartha View Post
    I beg to differ, on an older server you're quite right..prices don't matter. On a server as new as 166, they do. Those who don't have 1 trillion gold left in a 'glitched' city, just can't afford to purchase res, One billion gold will buy you 5m each of lumber and iron atm on 166.

    Playing the market is a major risk, as the markets are in my opinion are quite unstable.
    What does being on an old server have to do with having glitched ress?

    And it does not matter, You don't farm gold, you have to sell something to get it. It isn't really playing the market if you only buy, Lol.
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    158 had players who did not farm but played the market, straddling was easy -

    Buy stone at 1 and Sell at 10 at the same time worked well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mackay131 View Post
    158 had players who did not farm but played the market, straddling was easy -

    Buy stone at 1 and Sell at 10 at the same time worked well
    It works on every server. Sure, when prices are higher the difference in highs and lows is lesser, but it is still all relative. If food is 50 lumber is 200 stone is 10 and iron is 150, its EXACTLY the same as if food is 5 lumber is 20 stone is 1 and iron is 15.

    As long as the prices are in the proper ratio to one another, which they always are because of demand, the actual price makes no difference.

    Sure, if you are selling wood at 200 instead of 20 you'll put together a few trillion gold pretty quickly.. but so what? You still have to pay the same gold to ress ratio to use it. That pile isn't actually worth any more than it normally would be, it's just a bigger number.

    I'll try a real life scenario. Here is what's happening in your head, I'll use gas prices.

    You used to get paid 500 dollars a week, Gas was 1.95 per 9/10th gallon.
    You still get paid 500 dollars a week, but now your paying 4.10 9/10th gallon.

    In this case, yes, your getting screwed by the market because you don't have any more income than you used to, but prices are higher.

    Now, in reality this is what is happening. (It's hard to make a real life connection as there are far more than 4 things you need to buy in real life.)

    Your now getting paid 1051 a week, and gas prices are 4.10 9/10th gallon.
    You can buy exactly as much gas as you could before the price went up even tho you had less money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cushseth View Post
    What does being on an old server have to do with having glitched ress?

    And it does not matter, You don't farm gold, you have to sell something to get it. It isn't really playing the market if you only buy, Lol.
    I wasn't aware that npc's didn't have gold as a res in them...oh silly me, but they do. As for older servers and the glitched 'cities' of gold (as that was the only res untouched) I don't know many who had the means to partake in the glitch on 166, compared to an older server where having over 1 million transporters is the norm.

    If you can't buy.....you can't sell either. The prices have jumped 10 fold (if not more so) since evony fixed the glitch.

    However, I am sure you will find a way to not see the point I am trying to make and tell me 'it doesn't matter'.



    Quote Originally Posted by Mackay131 View Post
    158 had players who did not farm but played the market, straddling was easy -

    Buy stone at 1 and Sell at 10 at the same time worked well
    I understand how 'playing the market' works. It takes watching to see what prices do, to find the highs and low at which you are prepared to buy and sell. However when prices suddenly jump a min of 10 fold, all you can do is wait till it settles down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eartha View Post
    I wasn't aware that npc's didn't have gold as a res in them...oh silly me, but they do. As for older servers and the glitched 'cities' of gold (as that was the only res untouched) I don't know many who had the means to partake in the glitch on 166, compared to an older server where having over 1 million transporters is the norm.

    If you can't buy.....you can't sell either. The prices have jumped 10 fold (if not more so) since evony fixed the glitch.

    However, I am sure you will find a way to not see the point I am trying to make and tell me 'it doesn't matter'.




    I understand how 'playing the market' works. It takes watching to see what prices do, to find the highs and low at which you are prepared to buy and sell. However when prices suddenly jump a min of 10 fold, all you can do is wait till it settles down.
    You don't farm gold in the same sense you farm food, or wood. If you are, your doing it wrong and I'm sorry you don't know how to farm properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cushseth View Post
    It works on every server. Sure, when prices are higher the difference in highs and lows is lesser, but it is still all relative. If food is 50 lumber is 200 stone is 10 and iron is 150, its EXACTLY the same as if food is 5 lumber is 20 stone is 1 and iron is 15.

    As long as the prices are in the proper ratio to one another, which they always are because of demand, the actual price makes no difference.

    Sure, if you are selling wood at 200 instead of 20 you'll put together a few trillion gold pretty quickly.. but so what? You still have to pay the same gold to ress ratio to use it. That pile isn't actually worth any more than it normally would be, it's just a bigger number.

    I'll try a real life scenario. Here is what's happening in your head, I'll use gas prices.

    You used to get paid 500 dollars a week, Gas was 1.95 per 9/10th gallon.
    You still get paid 500 dollars a week, but now your paying 4.10 9/10th gallon.

    In this case, yes, your getting screwed by the market because you don't have any more income than you used to, but prices are higher.

    Now, in reality this is what is happening. (It's hard to make a real life connection as there are far more than 4 things you need to buy in real life.)

    Your now getting paid 1051 a week, and gas prices are 4.10 9/10th gallon.
    You can buy exactly as much gas as you could before the price went up even tho you had less money.
    That is the thing the prices aren't at the proper ration atm. On one server i play food lumber and iron are all at 20 and stone is at 87 (a server over 18 months old), on 166 (atm) the prices are food -5 (was 0.18 avg), lumber-70 (was 10 avg), stone-37 (was 2 avg) and Iron - 71 (was 11 avg).

    I am cetain if your gas/petrol prices went up by 10 fold tomorrow, you'd buy only if you really, really needed to and would use what you had economically. As in real life, only those with plenty of money. Those with the glitched cities of 1 trillion gold don't have to adjust how they play atm. They have the money to buy, so what does it matter what the prices are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eartha View Post
    That is the thing the prices aren't at the proper ration atm. On one server i play food lumber and iron are all at 20 and stone is at 87 (a server over 18 months old), on 166 (atm) the prices are food -5 (was 0.18 avg), lumber-70 (was 10 avg), stone-37 (was 2 avg) and Iron - 71 (was 11 avg).

    I am cetain if your gas/petrol prices went up by 10 fold tomorrow, you'd buy only if you really, really needed to and would use what you had economically. As in real life, only those with plenty of money. Those with the glitched cities of 1 trillion gold don't have to adjust how they play atm. They have the money to buy, so what does it matter what the prices are.
    This goes back to my last statement if you FARM properly, you sell before you buy. If your lazy and don't want to farm something other than npcs, it is entirely your fault the market is screwing you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cushseth View Post
    You don't farm gold in the same sense you farm food, or wood. If you are, your doing it wrong and I'm sorry you don't know how to farm properly.
    Any eejit can farm sweetie, it doesn't take intelligence to send a few trans and ballies at a level 5. Of course you don't farm for gold in the same sense as you do lumber,food and iron, however the extra gold you gain, goes to assisting your playing of the markets, now that is where patience and intelligence does come into it. I believe I fair quite well in both areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eartha View Post
    Any eejit can farm sweetie, it doesn't take intelligence to send a few trans and ballies at a level 5. Of course you don't farm for gold in the same sense as you do lumber,food and iron, however the extra gold you gain, goes to assisting your playing of the markets, now that is where patience and intelligence does come into it. I believe I fair quite well in both areas.
    The fact that you thought I was referring to farming npc5s just further proves my point. Your doing it wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prodigy the 5 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by cushseth View Post
    The fact that you thought I was referring to farming npc5s just further proves my point. Your doing it wrong.
    Everyone plays this game differently, their own way. Some get troops and have to go and kill everything in sight. Some build a defense first, then troops to go and kill everything in sight. Others build troops for defense and then work their heroes. I am sure there are other ways people play too.

    Just because my way, might not be your way. Still doesn't mean either of us are playing the wrong way. We might just play a different way.

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