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    I agree totally! I''ve been playing, and coining, since the game started. The botts have otten way out of hand. The markets are effected as well as the 24/7 bot farmers are dumping massive amounts of resources in the market and keeping the prices up too high for the new or avg. players to compete. Evony doesn't seem to care, as they are doing nothing to address the issue. Server 166 is a prime example of mass use of bots. Players aren't even tring to hide the fact that they use them in chat/world chat. Sad that so many good players are quiting the game because of it too.

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    If evony management is going to allow bots, they need to make it known to everybody and then we can all have them without being dishonest or running the risk of being banned. If they are going to ban people for having them, then they need to get busy and clean out the bots so the game can go on with less lag and an even slate for all players.

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    This issue of "clearing out bots" from all Evony servers has been around for some time. Evony implemented Captcha technology to stop botting but some bots get through this.

    If there was something that Evony staff could do to remove bots completely, then I'm sure they would do so. However, until then we people should just stop making these pointless threads about this topic, when I'm sure Evony staff members are working on a solution to this problem.

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    The bot problem and multi-accounting is a big issue, and the fact is evony hasn't stopped it. Many have left the game because of these problems, and just because people do it doesn't make it right.

    Picture a baseball game, which has rules in place. One guy shows up with an aluminum bat and starts whacking homeruns all over the place, and soon a few more do it, and then everyone does it. All of a sudden, everyone has these massive numbers that look impressive but are not real - because it isn't baseball any more. If the league doesn't stop the cheating, it isn't baseball under the rules any more. that's what has happened to Evony, the game isn't what it started as, and in my opinion, and many others, that is the primary reason for the drop off in real, live players.

    Most servers are populated by the same players using bots and alts, hardly a recipe for growth. And I am sure that just like ina ll businesses, only a small percentage of customers complain, most simply leave and don't look back.

    My goal to write these things is to save the game and make it fun again, and I see some movement from Evony to fix some of the issues. Server merges help alot, because accounts on multiple servers registered to a single email address get cut. They are definitely looking at what customers are saying, I hope it isn't too late for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Brown View Post
    Your post seems to contradict itself.....you admit the game is dieing, but don't think it needs fixed?
    You can't fix it.

    And how exactly are you going to bring new people to the Age 1 game? It is a game dominated by botters......
    Even if it wasn't, there are so many alternatives out there now that Evony, which arguably was not "unique" but certainly had the best advertising w/ all the b00bie ads, that players have alternate games built on essentially the same game engine to play.


    If Evony is going to get new people into the game, it apparently won't be through Age 1.
    This is why Age 2 was linked heavily to facebook... to draw in the 'farmville' players from Facebook into Evony's player ranks.


    Maybe the best thing is just to leave Age 1 as is, merge the servers until there are only 6-10 of them, and let it stay that way, where endless fields of level 10 NPCs are farmed by massive armies of 100 million archers and run by bots all day. Kind of a reverse Matrix of sorts.
    Server merges would be a wonderful thing. Just combine huge swatches of 'em. I play on a server that (before two merges) has been around for 3 years. Especially now that all the "inactives" have been weeded out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylzo View Post
    The botts have otten way out of hand. The markets are effected as well as the 24/7 bot farmers are dumping massive amounts of resources in the market and keeping the prices up too high for the new or avg. players to compete.
    Do basic laws of economics not apply?

    Ever hear of "supply and demand curves"?

    Do they not function in the Evony market?

    If bots were 'dumping massive amounts of resources in the market' then, by definition, prices would plummet.

    What would happen to gas prices if Saudia Arabia decides to dump 1 trillion gallons of oil on the market today?


    Quote Originally Posted by HossJ View Post
    If evony management is going to allow bots, they need to make it known to everybody and then we can all have them without being dishonest or running the risk of being banned.
    As a network admin, I firmly believe Evony knows who and who doesn't bot. I also suspect (and I suspect my post will get deleted because I express this thought) that they turn a blind eye to people botting up to a certain level, after which, they consider it 'abuse' and take action. Of course, you'll never see them admit this in the forums, because admitting it would be a blanket invitation to everyone to bot.


    Same principle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TentPig View Post
    You can't fix it.



    Even if it wasn't, there are so many alternatives out there now that Evony, which arguably was not "unique" but certainly had the best advertising w/ all the b00bie ads, that players have alternate games built on essentially the same game engine to play.




    This is why Age 2 was linked heavily to facebook... to draw in the 'farmville' players from Facebook into Evony's player ranks.




    Server merges would be a wonderful thing. Just combine huge swatches of 'em. I play on a server that (before two merges) has been around for 3 years. Especially now that all the "inactives" have been weeded out.
    Good points - especially about them having a huge advantage due to the ad campaign. A huge advantage they squandered by the way.

    And the mergers, if they did on a massive scale would curb many of the main complaints people have. Multi accounts would be lessened, more people on the map to fight, less room for NPCs and that would force fighting as well as lessen the army sizes..........all good things for real players.

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    Price of Stone 200 gold ?

    That is something to behold

    Best wishes to those who were in ICECOLD, MERC, HONOR on 131, SOLACE on 144, thePack2 on 158

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    When people quit Evony it is mainly due to lack of time and real life. By removing the ability to still farm and play while doing life tasks and work you force more to fall into the "not enough time" category of why players quit Evony.

    Don't lie to yourself. The game is boring to you because you have played for so long so it got old. Another reason it gets boring is cause players aren't forming new battle tactics and trying out attacks they've never really gotten into.

    Although the way the OP makes it sounds, we should all run around with 500k archers and like 50-100k total mechs, so good luck trying to form Rambows/RamSlams. borrrring

    I remember when all ppl could manage were 300k archers per city and just enough ballis to farm with (nothing else or you'd have too much upkeep). Oh the good ole days when noone knew what they were doing and the only ones who attacked were botters with 2-3mil scouts (and you thought that was godly numbers). All they would send were scout bombs cause that's all they knew how to kill your city with; so you CLOSED gates muahahaha. (ya I like it better now, where it's challenging and takes game knowledge)

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    Lets look at the real issue, Evony refuses to adapt as the game itself has. Evony continues to live in the stone age. Yes, all the bells and whistles bots have now with auto praying, move res out and auto trucing has taken away from the game. Lets be real, most people bot now,and wont go back to not botting, because of time and food. Majority of people will never go back to farming 12 plus hours a day. The old days when 100-300k archers in a city was a decent city is a joke these days. One rainbow will only take down walls if there are no troops in the city. You used to have to coordinate several people attacking a city to take it, on a decent player. If evony used automated farming, free for everyone, perhaps made the wheel a lil more up to date instead of thinking 1 mil food is a big deal, and increased production of your own resource fields the game could be viable again without botting. Then you can actually ban botting and enforce it without a revolt. People can have a decent amount of troops still, you would have more capped cities without the trucing, praying etc.....and you can still have a life. Can even have it still be you need the troops to farm, but once you have built your farm teams they automatically start farming. Heck, you can even change regeneration of full npcs from 8 hours to 4. Then people wouldn't have to have huge areas to farm with longer troop marches and such. Less time would go into maintenance of your cities and more time into fighting. You would eliminate the valley hunting of bots and make it harder for promotion, evony would make more money off people buying medal boxes again. Evony has done this to itself with its inability to adapt. Plus when you are attacking from one city, your other cities aren't being punished, they are still farming. I am sure these are not the easiest things to implement, but overall would bring much more substance back to the game. It would overall improve the game and bring back the competition and activity and probably even draw in new players again. The players would be happier and evony would make more money again, everyone wins.

    i would rather see some fundamental changes like these implemented rather then the horse crap spells and magic, alliance cooldown, and now comforting prices doubling every use. to me those issues are taking more away from the game then the actual botting.
    Last edited by rainbowbunnies; 09-27-2012 at 09:22 AM.

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