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Thread: Why do Players Bot and What can be Done to Reduce it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalee View Post

    The way I see it, the only way to stop botting (and I can only speak here for Age1), is to:
    a) Take away the need to farm in order to survive (yes, I know this is on Age2, but it's poncey, and Age1-ers don't want to go there)

    b) Cap armies at a maximum number of troops (SO many problems with this idea that it should never be implemented, but it would be a solution)

    c) enforce their TOS.

    People say that if Evony do away with the bots, then they leave. But what if options A and C were implemented together? What if Age1 didn't have to farm to stay alive, just to march or build.... AND Evony enforced their TOS?

    a. Taking away the need to farm would turn Age I into something completely different. The game wouldn't be the same because the major limiting factor to army size would go away and there wouldn't be any point in playing.

    b. I can pretty much directly relate this to owning a company. You build it up build it up and then someone comes along and says, sorry you're too big, we're going to cut you off here, and there's nothing you can do about it. This would be pathetic, and would ruin the game entirely.

    c. I think they just need to modify their tos to what they actually believe will be the best for the game. If they ban all the botters, and the multi-accounters, there wouldn't be enough profit left in evony to keep it alive. I'm sure there has been some pretty intense research by the evony team into who spends the real bucks and what would happen if they got rid of them all, and thus the reason to not get rid of all the bots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz Light Year View Post
    I did for longer than most, but i got tired of getting lapped by botters. ALl I am saying is now that i do bot i wont go back. I hope evony does enforce their rules, but if they do after all this time they will lose me and many others.

    Let me say 1 more thing. Someone like u who is returning from a time before bots and is planning to be #1 on the new server, dont be surprised when u get knocked around, walkd all over and start considering the option of a bot. U might hold true to ur beliefs and stay bot free, but u will never be a top player without one like u so openly proclaim urself to be.
    When did I say anywhere in this forum that I wanted to be #1?

    I don't use bots for the same reason I don't cheat in every other game I play. It takes the fun out of things and generally rules are there for the game to be enjoyable to everyone.

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    a. Taking away the need to farm would turn Age I into something completely different. The game wouldn't be the same because the major limiting factor to army size would go away and there wouldn't be any point in playing.
    Different? Is that such a bad thing for the player (not the bot). Do you enjoy farming? Or does your bot enjoy farming.

    Major limiting factor? That is a complete joke. It's not 'major limiting factor' to a bot. You, I and the rest of the players know that. So once again you must only be contesting this because you bot.

    b. I can pretty much directly relate this to owning a company. You build it up build it up and then someone comes along and says, sorry you're too big, we're going to cut you off here, and there's nothing you can do about it. This would be pathetic, and would ruin the game entirely.

    Is an even playing field for those who haven't botted such a bad thing? It would not be pathetic it would make these big botters into something less and give human players a better chance of competing. I don't understand how this would "ruin" the game for the human player. It might for the botter, eh?
    c. I think they just need to modify their tos to what they actually believe will be the best for the game. If they ban all the botters, and the multi-accounters, there wouldn't be enough profit left in evony to keep it alive. I'm sure there has been some pretty intense research by the evony team into who spends the real bucks and what would happen if they got rid of them all, and thus the reason to not get rid of all the bots.
    lol, so are you trying to justify the prescence of bots and multi accounters?

    Stop botting.

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    The major limiting factor to army size for people that don't bot is food. Durr. That was the main point behind a bot when it started getting going was so that you could build bigger armies because you could now feed them with a program farming 24/7. And yes, the game, without the need to farm, would be very different. If you want that experience, go play Age II.

    Second point: I'm saying that if you put a cap on the point to where you can build to, what would be the point to build to that cap and then just be done. I would There is no 'even playing field.' If you ban the botters, then the playing field will still be uneven between coiners and non-coiners. Get rid of the coiners and you have no game because no one is there to play for it. So you even the field for yourself by being competitive.

    Third point: I'm just saying it how I see it. Name 10 big coiners that don't use a bot. (Read: big coiners = $300 USD per server or more) I don't know one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hachi View Post
    Third point: I'm just saying it how I see it. Name 10 big coiners that don't use a bot. (Read: big coiners = $300 USD per server or more) I don't know one.
    I spend in excess of that on a server and I don't bot. I also know many others who spend more than me on servers that also don't bot.

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    Yeah yeah.

    Anyway this thread is going to be closed soon anyway... Its against forum rules to openly talk about botting on the forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hachi View Post
    a. Taking away the need to farm would turn Age I into something completely different. The game wouldn't be the same because the major limiting factor to army size would go away and there wouldn't be any point in playing.
    Actually, taking away the need to farm 24/7 would return the game to what it was prior to botting. I started on s9 (very briefly), then s16, then s101. It wasn't until halfway through 101 that I even HEARD of bots in this game. On s16, one round a day farming would sustain general players. Twice a day of L10's supported the big players.

    Different doesn't have to equate to bad.

    I'm not suggesting we return to "the good old days", simply that at a time when food wasn't a 24/7 focus, the game was fun, and people actually PLAYED it, instead of watching from the sidelines.


    Quote Originally Posted by Hachi View Post
    b. I can pretty much directly relate this to owning a company. You build it up build it up and then someone comes along and says, sorry you're too big, we're going to cut you off here, and there's nothing you can do about it. This would be pathetic, and would ruin the game entirely.
    I did say that army-size capping was a bad idea with many flaws. However, since we were tossing out ideas, that was one that was previously brought up (by Evony, I believe)


    Quote Originally Posted by Hachi View Post
    c. I think they just need to modify their tos to what they actually believe will be the best for the game. If they ban all the botters, and the multi-accounters, there wouldn't be enough profit left in evony to keep it alive. I'm sure there has been some pretty intense research by the evony team into who spends the real bucks and what would happen if they got rid of them all, and thus the reason to not get rid of all the bots.
    What you seem to be missing is the need to change the thought process of those using bots. Look at games like WOW and Modern Warfare when they implemented hack bans. Yes, they lost a portion of their clientele, but they still had the rest, and those who returned or joined when they learned that cheating had been stepped on.

    People state emphatically that they will leave if their cheating is stopped.
    How many leave every day because it's not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hachi View Post
    I'm going to keep this on topic, but take it in a slightly different direction.

    What are the advantages to NOT botting?

    - It's against the rules, technically.
    - You now must spend hours upon hours every day to feed an army.
    - You will never be satisfied with what you have, because it will be less than what you once had.
    - Other people will have less, and it relies a lot more on knowledge of battle mechanics because you don't have the amount of troops for it not to be.
    The best post so far here. Hits the nail on the head. 'nuff said.

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    Botting is bad. Everyone knows it. Everyone does it.

    I don't care if you spend 24 hours a day in front of your computer 7 days a week, it is not possible to equal a botter's army. Many people bot, not to have a cheat or be a *******, but just to be compete. You can go on about how you do fine with a small army and no botting, but none of us believe you. People bot because when evony did nothing about it at first, it because not an extension of the game, but part of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Professor X View Post
    I spend in excess of that on a server and I don't bot. I also know many others who spend more than me on servers that also don't bot.
    I know a few ppl who spend in excess of that on a server and still fall behind to botters. Truth is ppl who bot and spend 90$ on a server can easily surpass ppl who spend 500+ and dont bot.

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