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    i hate to break it to you but constant use of third party scripts by multiple users isn't the reason to bot, it the reason for the lag
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hachi View Post
    I'm going to keep this on topic, but take it in a slightly different direction.

    What are the advantages to NOT botting?

    - It's against the rules, technically.
    - You now must spend hours upon hours every day to feed an army.
    - You will never be satisfied with what you have, because it will be less than what you once had.
    - Other people will have less, and it relies a lot more on knowledge of battle mechanics because you don't have the amount of troops for it not to be.

    Look, bots are 'bad.' However they have brought about a change in Age I where its near impossible to go back without major consequences for the game itself. The place that bots have taken evony to, is one that cannot be replaced.

    I have some loving memories of how things used to be back on my first server 131. Things were special, maybe it was just the outstanding team I was with, and the fact that I still chat with several of them even though they have left evony.

    However, I have nightmares about 148. That was my second real server. I didn't bot, yet this was where botting was really hitting its prime growth. Most everybody else did. I was staying up until 3am for the maintenance farming because otherwise I would just lose. I would get overwhelmed about how much troops others had. It was really a terrible experience *playing* the game. Now the people that were with me there, the good friends are the reason I stayed.

    It is obvious to see the advantages to botting. It allows you to have a real life outside of evony, yet still be competitive in evony. It not only has a ton of advantages for players, but it has brought upon an advantage for Evony.

    Bots have increased the possibilities of evony. If you have an instant pault hero before bots, you can't use it to its max potential. There just isn't enough time in the day. However with bots, you can use it to its max potential. So what does that mean exactly? It means people with money are more likely to spend it because they know they will be able to use what they pay for.

    Even people not spending a lot of money on heroes, they have more troops. They need to go kill some on people, so they buy more teleporters. When you buy more teleporters, you hit more people, and more truces are used.

    You can see this effect by evony with the new comforting policy - it has increased the demand for speech texts and truces exponentially because it will be harder and harder to keep a city using comforting.

    Just my .02, not that its really worth all that much.
    Wow that was an eloquent well thought out response and there is a lot of truth in what you say.

    I have always said bots came to being originally simply for the farming. They evolved since then but who wants to come to a war game but have to farm for hundreds and hundreds of hours in order that they get to build an army to have a quick fight then go back to another 1000 hours farming.

    Evony should have realised that very few people have the endless hours required to do this therefore in order to become competitive and have more time for things like A LIFE, the only way was to bot and others drawn into it because most other people were botting.

    I detest botting and personally I think they took the skill away from this game, now it is not the best strategists that come out on top it is whomever can write the best scripts.

    This is not the road that Evony wanted this game to go down but it did and that is the reality, and I very much doubt there is any way they can go back.

    I mean what can they offer people to stop botting and how would anyone know that the next person has stopped even if they did manage to come up with some master stroke to coax people to stop.

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    I disagree that you need to bot to be competitive in the game.

    For the longest time, I didn't bot at all, I did run multiples but not on bot, just using the resources and moving it manually to a drop city. In fact for 18 months, I didn't farm at all, cities were sustained by selling resources for food in farm towns and my warcity just continually bled and would survive by holidaying, plundering and handouts. Coming from Server 5, a beta server, it was only in February 2012 that I started botting and never with my main. A friend of mine quit and gave me all his accounts, in excess of 10 of them, he provided scripts/goals to run them so just copy and pasted them and let them run.

    I didn't see any real improvement to my army size during the time, it was already massive without botting. It did mean I wouldn't need to ask for food from various members as I now had a source of my own. I can't say I enjoyed botting especially, it slowed down my computer, that plus a busier RL and other external factors brought me to quitting in July. 5 months of botting in 3 years(and much of that was spent in holiday). I was arguably the strongest player on my server for much of that time.

    I agree with the suggestion Evony needs to timetable a botting ban if they're serious about curbing it. Give an amnesty for those multi-ing and those botting, providing them a chance to stop and after the date agreed upon, suspensions for first offence and none of that half resources/troops stuff. Reduce to 10%. Next offence should mean permaban.
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    Right, but how many hours were you online a day Kiki? Not everybody has the privileged to be online nearly all day.

    Most people have to work 9-5 where they can't be on Evony, and then they come home to a family and only get a few hours every night/morning where they can realistically play evony. Now they love the game, the teamwork, the attacking, the strategy.. but without bots, there is just no way they can play. Evony bans bots and they lose their favorite game and evony loses the dough they spent on the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay View Post
    So from what I'm reading it seems that the key factor in all of this is the 24/7 farming. It's not really the comforting that's the root reason for using a bot. Which probably why it was welcomed with ambivalence. As long as I can farm it makes not that much difference to me.

    It would make sense if Evony were to introduce some kind of automated farming. It couldn't be without it's penalties of course. None of us would be that much better off except it'll be legal.

    desk, raised an interesting point though. It's the massive amount of multiple accounts that produce the bigger armies rather than the actual bot. I tend to agree with him and although it wasn't what I asked in the OP it does explain where these mighty armies came from.

    Thoughts?
    Rather than just for the farming, I think the fact that a bot can be online for nearly 24 hours a day, everyday, is the root factor for bots now. It might have begun just to sustain farming, but it has now come to encompass the whole usage of an account. By this I mean an account can now automatically farm, build, defend, truce, and perform almost every other activity that a real player can do, without any player being on the account them self. Because of this, aspects of the game such as comforting could be abused to the degree that there would be almost no way to overcome them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz Light Year View Post
    Mech is right, we all started for the farming, but now that I have botted for over a year and a half or so I cannot go back to playing without bots. Honestly I still log and enjoy the game for what it is. I am not a player who uses bots to attack and I still enjoy the social game. The truth is this; If evony ever gets rid of bots they get rid of me and my money as well. I am pretty sure a lot of other players share in this opinion as well. Get rid of the bots, get rid of the coiners and kill the game. Just give up EVONY.
    **** people like you make me sick .... bribing evony not to get rid of bots or they lose your money ..... learn to play the game well and you wont need the help of a bot simple as this branding youself as a bot player wow nice job when you have more army than sombody else due to bots an you zero them makes you feel good because you can run a bot on your pc .... you take all the fun out of the game for every1 else and also you take the chalange out the game for yourself ... and 1 more thing when i player who does not bot zeros you you must feel like a complete retard !

    Anyway i have just come back to this game an i will make it clear how to beat botting players without being a botter the most retarded cheapest self degrading thing you could have ever done as a player is become a bot player just to keep up..... learn how to blodddy que troops till you know your be back on it aint hard tards
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    Quote Originally Posted by Professor X View Post
    When did I say anywhere in this forum that I wanted to be #1?

    I don't use bots for the same reason I don't cheat in every other game I play. It takes the fun out of things and generally rules are there for the game to be enjoyable to everyone.
    I remember this part of it.

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    I'll be starting-up an alliance called XMEN, which I have successfully ran on several servers before. Expect to see us pretty high on the honour table early on in the server's life as we generally attack strong and fast.

    If anyone is interested in joining us, then feel free to add me on Skype and I'll add you into our Skype chat where I'll be sharing with you all my strategies and fast-track build orders for coiners and non-coiners.


    Quote Originally Posted by Professor X View Post
    I plan on making a stand on 168, and I'm bringing back the XMEN clan. You'll see me on there with the No. 1 spot and my clan too with the No. 1 spot.

    Good luck to anyone else who is thinking about joining the server too.
    There is where u said u would be #1 btw



    Like i said I hate bots. I hated when i started to use one. I do honestly wish evony would enforce their rules. But like i said they dont, they wont and if they do they will kill their game. SO I joined the bandwagon got me a bot and got competetive again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz Light Year View Post
    I remember this part of it.

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    Originally Posted by Professor X
    I'll be starting-up an alliance called XMEN, which I have successfully ran on several servers before. Expect to see us pretty high on the honour table early on in the server's life as we generally attack strong and fast.

    If anyone is interested in joining us, then feel free to add me on Skype and I'll add you into our Skype chat where I'll be sharing with you all my strategies and fast-track build orders for coiners and non-coiners.


    I also remember a post saying me and my guys are remaking XMEN and plan to be #1. I know a few ppl that can attest to that statement that was posted by u.

    Like i said I hate bots. I hated when i started to use one. I do honestly wish evony would enforce their rules. But like i said they dont, they wont and if they do they will kill their game. SO I joined the bandwagon got me a bot and got competetive again.
    I still don't see where I stated that I wanted to be number 1 on the server. So all of that effort nothing.

    (facepalm)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Professor X View Post
    I still don't see where I stated that I wanted to be number 1 on the server. So all of that effort nothing.

    (facepalm)
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Professor X
    I plan on making a stand on 168, and I'm bringing back the XMEN clan. You'll see me on there with the No. 1 spot and my clan too with the No. 1 spot.

    Good luck to anyone else who is thinking about joining the server too.

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    ^ Ha you beat me to it. I was trying to find the post, but couldn't find it.
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