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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay View Post
    Methinks you failed to miss the irony there.
    What's ironic is you barely even play Evony anymore but still seem like a broken record with all your posts opposing positive change in the game.

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    And how is Hughsey supposed to 'pass' Atlantis over to someone else when there is currently a 5 mile exclusion zone around 0,0 and a 100+ accounts watching his every move. The 'trojan horse' glitch has been fixed. It's possible but if it's messed up he'll lose Atlantis, just like that. Oh isn't that getting something for nothing I must look that up......

    ....As for the Ferrai comparsion, well doesn't Hughesy's alliance build troops to defend. If I've read the blurb right from Khans they've regularly cleared 0,0. So it'll make sense that Hughsey's alliance make troops to keep 0,0 with them. So it's just not comforting that's keeping Khans from capturing Atlantis. I'm getting with the irony here.

    Quote Originally Posted by xTONYx View Post
    Every time I check the forums its the same old sob story.....
    I'm sorry Tony but it's isn't a sob story, I'm finding this far too comical.

    As much as I've loved dating you I'm afraid I want to break up. You know it's not you it's me.....oh hell it's you really I can't compete with how much you love yourself. It's like having three people in this relationship....

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    I think its more accurate to say that the players are complaining that if it weren't for cheating in the way of the unlimited use of comforting through bot/account sharing, they would have Atlantis. I doubt they would ask for a tweak if they had failed trying to break through its defenses, had it been defended as such.

    I don't believe that the kind of activity on NA1 is anything close to healthy from what I've seen. That open hostility and lack of sportsmanship is reflected in a lot of other servers, and it stems from the resentment that is fueled by the perceived lack of regard and fairness that the opposite side performs. Neither side wants to give up anything to the opposition and will do everything necessary in their power to keep it so, whether that be avoiding a fight through comforting, or in extreme cases, account hacking or banning.

    It wasn't always like this, far from it, healthy competition was what had kept older servers so active compared to the newer ones. This healthy competition died though as some players left thinking there was no point to play a game where effort was in vain when faced against cheating that made it nearly impossible to achieve anything through pvp. Many of the remaining players, whether intentionally or unintentionally, adopted the philosophy that since the other side cheated to never admit defeat, they would as well.

    One method to curb it back away from this would be the ban everyone who cheated. That would probably turn out to be the vast majority of players that still play. With a forced break, I don't know if many would return once the ban is up, since it isn't as fun to play evony as it used to be, the environment not nearly as carefree and jovial as it used to be.

    This is the other method to curb it, trying to stem away the advantages to cheating. In some ways it has worked, it is harder, not impossible, to keep a city indefinitely comforting. It also forces current automated comforting tools to become outdated. This situation here is the only where the old methods of comforting to keep a city can continue to work, and as I see it, are continuing to work. Imo, thats not a good thing, supporting it shows support to the continued use of cheating.

    I don't know if that healthy competition that used to be abundant in evony will ever return in full swing, but my hope is that it does. It was that game that I had enjoyed so much, not the constant bickering that it has become now, about who is cheating, and how.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay View Post
    I'm sorry Tony but it's isn't a sob story, I'm finding this far too comical.

    As much as I've loved dating you I'm afraid I want to break up. You know it's not you it's me.....oh hell it's you really I can't compete with how much you love yourself. It's like having three people in this relationship....

    Love the picture, it's sweet.
    Hey no worries I was seeing someone else anyways while you were doing whatever it is you do. Your crooked big toe and yellow toe nails along with your hairy earlobes was a turnoff anyways.

    Stop by whenever your in the area your stuff is on the curb......

    I say the comforting change is a step in the right direction, I argue facts and real ongoing situations of the matter...
    You dream up ideas that don't exist and STILL blame botters and STILL feel it's fair to have something forever in a war game...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blah99200 View Post
    I think its more accurate to say that the players are complaining that if it weren't for cheating in the way of the unlimited use of comforting through bot/account sharing, they would have Atlantis. I doubt they would ask for a tweak if they had failed trying to break through its defenses, had it been defended as such.

    I don't believe that the kind of activity on NA1 is anything close to healthy from what I've seen. That open hostility and lack of sportsmanship is reflected in a lot of other servers, and it stems from the resentment that is fueled by the perceived lack of regard and fairness that the opposite side performs. Neither side wants to give up anything to the opposition and will do everything necessary in their power to keep it so, whether that be avoiding a fight through comforting, or in extreme cases, account hacking or banning.

    It wasn't always like this, far from it, healthy competition was what had kept older servers so active compared to the newer ones. This healthy competition died though as some players left thinking there was no point to play a game where effort was in vain when faced against cheating that made it nearly impossible to achieve anything through pvp. Many of the remaining players, whether intentionally or unintentionally, adopted the philosophy that since the other side cheated to never admit defeat, they would as well.

    One method to curb it back away from this would be the ban everyone who cheated. That would probably turn out to be the vast majority of players that still play. With a forced break, I don't know if many would return once the ban is up, since it isn't as fun to play evony as it used to be, the environment not nearly as carefree and jovial as it used to be.

    This is the other method to curb it, trying to stem away the advantages to cheating. In some ways it has worked, it is harder, not impossible, to keep a city indefinitely comforting. It also forces current automated comforting tools to become outdated. This situation here is the only where the old methods of comforting to keep a city can continue to work, and as I see it, are continuing to work. Imo, thats not a good thing, supporting it shows support to the continued use of cheating.

    I don't know if that healthy competition that used to be abundant in evony will ever return in full swing, but my hope is that it does. It was that game that I had enjoyed so much, not the constant bickering that it has become now, about who is cheating, and how.
    i agree with Blah, erm.....not much else to say....apart from can someone stop that record from jumping.....

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    There is no such thing as healthy competition in Evony these days. How many people who are advocating another change in comforting have followed the ToS to the letter?

    Probably not many, I'm not having a go but that's the bottom line. It's ok for one side to cheat to make things easier for themselves but if it means they can't have what they want, they complain about it and lobby for change. Hypocrisy and irony at it's finest.

    I get the reasoning behind it. I understand they desire to capture HC's, especially Atlantis. I also, however get what Hughesy's argument too. Two wrongs don't make a right.

    I'll throw this in before I completely succumb to laughter. No offence but this is turning into a farce. I really can't recall one person on my server ever complaining about not capturing cities. In most of the top 10 were more than content, porting about, killing troops and plundering resources. It really didn't matter if they failed to capture the city they were attacking, they just came back at a later date and plundered more resources. Maybe it's time we all stop worrying whether we can capture cities and try to enjoy the game. You never know, you might begin to have fun again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay View Post
    There is no such thing as healthy competition in Evony these days. How many people who are advocating another change in comforting have followed the ToS to the letter?

    Probably not many, I'm not having a go but that's the bottom line. It's ok for one side to cheat to make things easier for themselves but if it means they can't have what they want, they complain about it and lobby for change. Hypocrisy and irony at it's finest.

    I get the reasoning behind it. I understand they desire to capture HC's, especially Atlantis. I also, however get what Hughesy's argument too. Two wrongs don't make a right.

    I'll throw this in before I completely succumb to laughter. No offence but this is turning into a farce. I really can't recall one person on my server ever complaining about not capturing cities. In most of the top 10 were more than content, porting about, killing troops and plundering resources. It really didn't matter if they failed to capture the city they were attacking, they just came back at a later date and plundered more resources. Maybe it's time we all stop worrying whether we can capture cities and try to enjoy the game. You never know, you might begin to have fun again.
    Maybe it's time that you played the game again?
    (for someone not playing the game, you sure have a lot to say lol)

    Or stop complaining and just leave Evony forever
    (and leave the suggestions and feedback to active players like the rest of us here)

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    lol NA1 must be pretty awesome if people on other servers debate us lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay View Post
    I really can't recall one person on my server ever complaining about not capturing cities. In most of the top 10 were more than content, porting about, killing troops and plundering resources. It really didn't matter if they failed to capture the city they were attacking, they just came back at a later date and plundered more resources.

    this is what i do and how i play, however.....i play in age2 and i understand the need to cap historic cities, which on your server you do not have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay View Post
    I'll throw this in before I completely succumb to laughter. No offence but this is turning into a farce. I really can't recall one person on my server ever complaining about not capturing cities. In most of the top 10 were more than content, porting about, killing troops and plundering resources. It really didn't matter if they failed to capture the city they were attacking, they just came back at a later date and plundered more resources. Maybe it's time we all stop worrying whether we can capture cities and try to enjoy the game. You never know, you might begin to have fun again.
    as an age 1 player, you cant relate. hc owners can draft, food and gold levy other players within the territory of that hc. the atlantis holder can draft the entire server.

    so morgan youre telling me that youd be content with an owner of such a prize holding this prize indefinitely with zero troops and not ever having to fight all the while youre having 20% of your farmed food and some troops taken from you and your friends daily? you dont believe such a prize should be worked for and deserved. you think its ok to play a war game without ever having to use a troop to fight?

    what planet are you on?


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