Why I Choose Peace

[King Alboin]

Jeez how much do I have to repeat myself? What does being a boss on these forums have to do with the price of fish? Does a couple of thousand posts make his opinion somehow more valid or correct?

Rodri posted an evocative thread that has led to some interesting discussion and dialogue, I would no more agree with someone because of 'forum status' than I would the pope if he said something that didn't sit right with me.

Believe it or not this is how 'grown-ups' talk.

EDIT...Religious views? I agree with some of the basics of christianity and am fairly well read...so sue me.

the price of a fish is worth the pound of flesh, it takes to hump up that mountain to find that creek where they are biting, and sir Rodrick has caught many an elusive predator. just saying.



the thing is, we need to sidetrack the religiosity of this thread a tad. for me thinks it be smooshing the fine line of the rules.

to Balaam:

What the salsbury cream cheese is a chook? down under blokes sure come up with cool names.


to Sir Rodrick:


I think I am beginning to understand where you are coming from. In my humble estimation, you found it. the place most will seek after and never find. A place we could possible call Peaceville. Again, aggressing my guesstiment, in ethereal terms, a gate was opened to you, you entered, saw the wonders of contentment and decided to share that with us. if so, then there is nothing at all wrong with that.


I think you have partially or wholly achieved inner peace. You are not far from ascension. The last task remaining is to leave a mark, a fingerprint upon the dirt of earth, or a shadow on the northern rock wall, as Master Po did. All one hundred seventeen of the Ascended Masters want and desire world peace. They know, wisely so, that their attainment of inner peace, would of been much easier had they just settled down and cooled the fire that was scorching their blood at an earlier age. As such, their desire for world peace is expressed in this wisdom of their experiences. The world would live in complete harmony, with nature and the Way, if the world too would just try to settle down and cool the rage that plagues the human heart.

the question of how to attain world peace I think you answer by the expressions you give in your first post and subsequent posts. Man is a slave whether he realizes it or not, and is in dire need to break those bonds.

however, I must re-itterate my first response. Peace [world peace] is like a three legged stool.

I know you see this to be true, if not, then you cloak the reality of the situation.

lets say that everyone but one person, lays down their arms. quits the study of war, developes nature's love and coexist without over comsumption. k ... the one who does not lay down his arms, has free reign to go on a killing spree. recent history in my country proves it. A place in colorado, comes to mind. horrible. monday morning quarterbacking does the dead no good.

So I ask you this one favor, Rodri. Let the world sort it out in its due time. I know that many good men will fall in order to stop the bad men who want to kill the innocent. What the Ascendent Masters eventually find out, is, is that there will be only a few who see Peaceville, the way they do and you do. That is why it is such an exclusive club, with very few members. For the world too must go through the riggors of trial and error to attain the calm of contentment. But for now, to allow the few the freedom to discover those paths of inner contentment, men trained in the proper use of violence must sit on walls.

[tipperary1]

No, but its against forum rules And yes reputation does count for something.

surely you dont mean the bars on the top right hand corner?

[Rodri]

The place where Rodri quoted was Luke 11:9

Earl stop trying to bighead yourself, Rodri is a boss on these forums so just accept it and don't make yourself a powerful (but friendly) enemy.

The problem I find with your train of thought Rodri is that those destructive people will bring their destruction upon you. Look at WWII where innocent Jews were killed for nothing bar Hitlers personal hatred of them. Do you believe that you will be left alone if you segregate yourself from society?

Grito97, I have known the fear you talk about here. I have put myself 'out there' in places where people with the power to harm me might take notice and as I came to a certain level of awareness, the fear was massive. I was quite disturbed but I had to get over that and calm my mind so I could function in the 'real world'. Nothing bad has happened to me yet and I don't think it will but even if bad things did happen to me, it doesn't matter. I'm just going to point you at this other thread in this section about fear: http://bbs.evony.com/showthread.php?t=206855

The thing is, I'm not segregated from society. I live in it, I interact with it but I do it on my own terms and I work to change it in my own small ways. But I won't be a willing or passive victim.

King Albion, a chook is a chicken, a hen, that's all. It probably comes from generations of people saying "chook chook chook" at feeding time, idk. It's a part of Australian language now and has taken on other uses. An "old chook" is a slightly derogatory term for a woman of maturity. We even had a state premiere (Joh Bjelke-Peterson, Queensland) who used to refer to media conferences as "feeding the chooks". It might be interesting to trace the etymology of the word and find out when and how it first came into use.

Peace is a three legged stool? that's fine. A three-legged stool or a tripod is one of the most stable structures you can have. How to enforce peace in a world of peace is a big question and one that hasn't really been answered completely to my own satisfaction. I will say that I do not believe that force and violence are any way to achieve a real and lasting peace. Wars only end when one side decides it has had enough of the death and destruction and is so heart-sick that they will take any conditions imposed upon them to finish the madness. But resentments persist and old wounds never really heal. Even the 'victors' are constantly looking over their shoulders, fearing an attack from this source or that because what they have done, others must be capable of doing as well (or so they think).

Perhaps we need to examine the sources of conflict, how these issues first arise, why some seek to impose themselves upon others and why they think they need to do that. There's much work still needed, that's for sure.

[Grito97]

No I was not referring to that Tipperary.

[Rodri]

You add one link and the post get's held up in moderation and the thread dies.

Summation:
The world is ruled over by insane mind/s.
Causing suffering of others causes suffering of self.
Hatred is the ******* child of fear.
Humanity is divided and individuals feel isolated from everyone else.
Humanity is enslaved by the world that we live in and those who would rule it.
We are more than this physical form and we are more than the brain in our head.
We are conciousness having an experience in a world that seems real but isn't really real at all.
Eventually, all conflicts must end when those involved grow weary of the fight.
This is how the internal conflict must end as well and when it does, peace is the only choice that makes any sense.
Do not look to others to provide you with the answers to all of your questions.
Do not look to others to lead you, unless you are sure that you wish to go where they will take you.
If you wish to be free then you must also accept full responsibility for all of your actions and inactions - no excuses.
Inner peace can only come from a place of quiet calmness and loving acceptance.

That's pretty much it, where my journey has taken me so far. I don't see myself as being anything special compared to other people in any significant way. Eventually, I think we all need to come together in peace. It may not be possible right now and much may need to occur before we are ready to do that. But each individual can seek some inner peace for themselves at any time they wish, just stop judging everything, including yourself and calm your noisy mind.

[MrHawk]

I dont do peace because war is profitable.

And fun

[tipperary1]

I dont do peace because war is profitable.

And fun

george bush the 2nd.........

[LadyMariana]

While I have followed this discussion with interest, I have not the wisdom to really contribute to it at this point in time in my life, but recently found this quote on the matter that seems to tie in with what Rodri be saying. Though whether it does or not I can't be sure, as Rodri speaks of things that I'm not sure I quite understand. But here.

"People spend a lifetime searching for happiness; looking for peace. They chase idle dreams, addictions, religions, even other people, hoping to fill the emptiness that plagues them. The irony is the only place they ever needed to search was within." -Romana L. Anderson

[Rodri]

"People spend a lifetime searching for happiness; looking for peace. They chase idle dreams, addictions, religions, even other people, hoping to fill the emptiness that plagues them. The irony is the only place they ever needed to search was within." -Romana L. Anderson

Lady M. this quote is very much relevant to the discussion. These days, in our consumption driven societies, people also try to fill their lives with material stuff to fill that hole inside but it never seems to fill up that way, no matter how much stuff they accumulate.

Another disturbing modern trend is for people to spend their lives trying to live out some sort of fantasy role, rather than just being themselves. I find this disturbing because many people caught up in this fantasy-reallity seem to reject their own self in favour of some imaginary role and if you try and interrupt their fantasy, they can get very upset. Is real life really that terrible that it must be blocked out at all costs? If so, why?

[Cosmic Fury]

After reading this entire thread, I've formed one inevitable, ironic conclusion:

Peace in the end is only earned by those who fight for it.

It's likely not completely true, but nonetheless it's something to think about.