Why I Choose Peace

[eric0095]

rather than just being themselves.

"Be yourself... everyone else is taken." - Too Lazy To Look Up Who Said This

[King Alboin]

want to hear irony?

How come a "Justice of the Peace" has jail cells and a mallet?

A "Peace Officer" comes with a badge and a gun?

"Peace Keepers", are usually no smaller than an Army Brigade?

the "Peace Council" is made up of "Diplomats" who seek the disassembly of a country's sovereignty?

Neville Chamberlain is still a butt head for proclaiming ...

The settlement of the Czechoslovakian problem, which has now been achieved is, in my view, only the prelude to a larger settlement in which all Europe may find peace. This morning I had another talk with the German Chancellor, Herr Hitler, and here is the paper which bears his name upon it as well as mine. Some of you, perhaps, have already heard what it contains but I would just like to read it to you: ' ... We regard the agreement signed last night and the Anglo-German Naval Agreement as symbolic of the desire of our two peoples never to go to war with one another again

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO725Hbzfls

and...

My good friends, this is the second time in our history that there has come back from Germany to Downing Street peace with honour. I believe it is peace for our time. We thank you from the bottom of our hearts. And now I recommend you to go home and sleep quietly in your beds

However, appeasement did not work, hence AH's occupation of Poland, and then this speech by his honor Neville Chamberlain, a declaration of WAR!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE-7wljw_50&feature=related

whoever the wiseman, who said, "those that do not learn from history, shall be intent upon repeating it" I dont know, but them words ring with so much truth in them.

Peace is won by the hand who fires the last shot, because peace is broken by the hand who fires the first shot.

Back in the sixties, we used to refer to those peace lovers as peaceniks.

A war was raging in Indochina. Thousands of souls were being slaughtered everyday, some just because they wore glasses.

The Khmer Rouge went on a genocide rampage.

What did the "Peaceniks" do? protest the army that was trying to defeat the murderers of millions of souls.

To shout "peace peace peace", is kin to shouting, "we will keep the soldiers off your back while you kill the innocent."

For once in your adult life, please read Xenophon's "Retreat of the Ten Thousand"

Then get back to me with the high ideas of peace.

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KA, aka King Alboin

[dothisuntome]

That's pretty much it, where my journey has taken me so far. I don't see myself as being anything special compared to other people in any significant way. Eventually, I think we all need to come together in peace. It may not be possible right now and much may need to occur before we are ready to do that. But each individual can seek some inner peace for themselves at any time they wish, just stop judging everything, including yourself and calm your noisy mind.

Never going to happen. Deep down we are still too primal. The temptation to take advantage of those weaker body/mind will always be too much.

Base survival instincts. strong survive. When you put that into society as a base primal urge. True peace will never be possible. someone will ALWAYS covet something thy neighbor has.

damn humans.

[Rodri]

Yes, this world is full of pain and suffering and death and destruction and corruption and greed because this world is ruled over by evil and evil is all those things but evil is seductive as well. Evil whispers that you can have everything you want, everything you desire, if you choose to follow that path. But evil will ultimately betray those who follow it and bring the ultimate destruction down upon them. That is the nature of evil.
The great seducer can promise anything and everything, from world peace to technological singularity in the near future so "we can be like Gods" and "live forever". But in the end we still have Conquest, War, Famine and Death riding out across the world, reaping the harvest of evil. You think that conquest is good? I say the only conquest worth fighting for is the conquest over self or ego. Only when you see all people as you see yourself, only when you realise that we are consciousness, all sharing an experience and we all arise from the SAME SOURCE, will you overcome the ego and lay down your weapons and turn to your brothers and sisters in peace.

I say again, there is no way to win peace with weapons of destruction. Look around at the world today and realise that we stand on the brink of total destruction and realise that all those wars for 'good causes' throughout history have brought us to this point. There is no future down this path, that is the truth.

I don't expect anyone who reads this to fully understand these words at this point in time. But I urge you to remember what I have said here, store it away for the future and when the time comes, you will know God is Love.

[King Alboin]

I admire your strength of resolve brother, perhaps then if you do not know this pathway, may I present to you, the ancient path to peace. If you do know, then I present it as a gift for those who seek what you want them to remember.



The meaning of which is spelled out here ...

http://www.tibettravel.com/en/Other-Religions/Six-Syllable-Mantra---Om-Mani-Pad-me-Hum-153.html

and chanted thus ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1bnkmK587g



yeah, go figure I knew of such things.

[Rodri]

The Real You - Alan Watts

[King Alboin]

the thing is Rodri, and I wish with all my being, you will listen to this ...

the thing is, peace comes with a price, it aint free. Mantras and Lotus' dont beckon peace, blood and bullets are the only things that can assure peace. Cuz it dont matter what the intercourse you think nor what the intercourse I think, there are still morons who want to kill you and I, just cuz we guys aint like them. I wont stand for that. if you do, then I wish you a happy death, though I know at their hands you will NOT have one.

yet let me inform you of this truth. should you be in dire straights and need my help to survive. I will move asgardt and earth to keep you in the mindless bliss you so desparately seek. which is the chance to see your peace become real.

nuff said, I will say no more, cept this tune ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=ozpdBvB0hek&NR=1

[Vituperative Demagogue]

Some of you think I have gone soft-headed maybe and you think you can mess with me?

Yes. Yes I do.

So why did I change my sig to the generic PEACE word and change my avatar to some bits of fruit laying on the grass? It's a long story but it relates to the way I see the world and the stuff that's going on in it right now. We have politicians strutting around making themselves out to be leaders when all they are is puppets for the real power structure and that real power structure is making plans for war. I'm not talking about a small war, I'm talking about a big, nasty, world-get's screwed-up and millions/billions of people get killed war. (If you think you are 'safe' because you are on the 'right' side, you are kidding yourself.)

Because you feel edgy, neat, insecure, unwanted, ill-advised, unsure, depressed, disturbed, and you want to live the good old days of fighting the Big Man.

Look at what's happening in the world. Now go back and look at history. Now look at the money trail and see that it's the same group that has stolen the money in the past that has stolen it all again and it's the same group that leads us off like lemmings towards the cliff of murderous warfare, every time, right back through history, back to the crusades and probably even back before that. They slap a weapon in your hands, a tin hat on your head and fill your mind with the justifications for violence and off you go. Good luck with that.

For this moment I will take you seriously. What is this group that is constantly stealing money? Who are they?

More importantly, is war inherently wrong?

Now, you might think that you know what is going on and you might think that it all has to go down that way. I'm here to tell you, just about everything you have been told by the mainstream media and the politicians and the Churches and even your teachers at school is a lie. Did they tell you that you are free? That's a lie.

It is a lie because you say it is a lie?

If you are a young man, you can't even choose peace as a way to live if they want you to fight their war. They will lock you up and call you a criminal for doing so.

I hope so. When the time comes when my freedoms are threatened, when my children's freedoms are threatened, or any of my posterity is threatened then I want those young man (and women) defending not the nation, but the idea of the nation, or any free nation. Any person that would not fight for some liberty is undeserving of that liberty.

Freedom, liberty, those are just words these days and most people will never even understand that because their heads are full of the junk they put there and reinforce all the time.

Are we just going to start making facts up because if so, I am very capable of that.

Advertising, video clips, video games, films, television shows, the nightly news and politicians talking - it's all bs, it's all pollutants. It's also very pervasive and very subtle and it's toxic. Your heads and your bodies are full of toxins and that is no accident.

How are these things toxins?

Do you think it's 'cool' to play the gun-toting gangsta, or the blood-drinking ghoul, or even the cyborg killing machine?

It is. THere is a certain ceremonial beauty to continuing those traditions. Sure, only one of those things is currently attainable but in games all those things are fun because they provide an escape from the mundane and boring.

There are forces at work in the world that I cannot talk about on this forum (and there are reasons for that as well). All I can say is, go and do some research, go and find out the truth. Don't accept the easy lies, go deeper, even if it frightens you to do so.

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I choose peace because it's the only viable option, as far as I can see, for the future survival of the human race. I made it green because I believe we had better learn to respect nature and learn how to live without destroying the natural world because we are a part of it and the destruction of nature will be the destruction of us all. I chose my avatar because it's all about the food. If we screw up the world to the point where the food runs out, what's left? Well, you are meat and I am meat and meat is food, right?
So call me whatever you like, do whatever you want, think whatever you think. I don't care, I have stuff I need to do. So do you, even if you don't realise it.

Fun read.

I'll be honest and blunt and say I didn't care enough to read the whole thread and I don't expect a response. I just need a higher post count.

[Rodri]

Yes. Yes I do.




Because you feel edgy, neat, insecure, unwanted, ill-advised, unsure, depressed, disturbed, and you want to live the good old days of fighting the Big Man.

Actually I feel calm, relaxed, aware and energised. The past is gone and the future is unknowable so I live in the moment. Who is this "Big Man" you speak of?


For this moment I will take you seriously. What is this group that is constantly stealing money? Who are they?

To know the answer to this, you have to understand fractional lending and fiat currencies based on debt. Oops, looks like I gave it away. It's the banksters of course and the richest bankers of them all are family dynasties that date back a long time. These bankers have powerful connections to governments, royalty, the churches and to industry.

More importantly, is war inherently wrong?

What do you expect me to say? That war is good and we need war to get ahead? I have heard that argument for most of my life - "Wars create rapid technological developments that make the world better." Nope, sorry. The world is not better with the technological developments. The world is polluted, degraded, de-natured and de-humanised. We might have some things that are slightly better but the balance, in my opinion, is negative.

It is a lie because you say it is a lie?

Do you have a tax file number, or a social security number? Was your birth registered and does your birth certificate have a number on it? Can you create wealth for yourself without paying a portion to your masters (government)? Can you build a home for yourself, where you like without the proper papers, permits, licences and titles? You are a slave and you have been a slave since the day you were born.

I hope so. When the time comes when my freedoms are threatened, when my children's freedoms are threatened, or any of my posterity is threatened then I want those young man (and women) defending not the nation, but the idea of the nation, or any free nation. Any person that would not fight for some liberty is undeserving of that liberty.

Is it fighting for liberty when someone else orders you to fight? Is it fighting for liberty to have to fight to protect the posteriors of the fat-cat banksters? Do you even know what liberty is?

Are we just going to start making facts up because if so, I am very capable of that.

When I was a child they used to make us stand at attention and sing the national anthem (God Save the Queen) and to recite a pledge to the Queen of England. That was clumsy stuff compared to the subtle mind control methods that are used these days but the basic principles are the same. How many times in your life have you heard the phrase "land of the free"? How many times have you been told how great your country is? Free? How can you be free when you are restricted in almost every way? Do you even realise how restricted you are in your choices? I'm not making anything up at all.

How are these things toxins?

Advertising - You are sold a message constantly that you are what you own and you must have this and you must have that, or your life is meaningless and you are not a man/woman that others want to be around. Your children will not love you unless you buy them this product or feed them that sugar-coated cereal. You are told that fun is only possible when you drink this drink or eat this burger or whatever they want to sell you. How can that not be toxic?
Video clips - sell sexual promiscuity to children, along with drugs and violence in some instances.
Video games - reinforce the violent solution 9 times out of 10.
Television - shows are mostly just extended advertising, only more subtle but still selling a message related to consumerism.
The nightly news - just focuses on disasters and problems such as crime and corruption. They love a good murder and abhor a day when nothing goes seriously wrong. They implant fear, lust, greed, anger and envy into the minds of the viewers and in all of these instances, these are just images on a screen, a small square window that has only a very small relationship to the real world. Yet most people think what they see on the screen is real. It's just flickering dots!
Politicians - sell themselves as real but nothing could be further from the truth. In the modern world, you don't get anywhere in politics unless you are willing to make some serious compromises and agree to do things you never really wanted to do. Politicians lie. They probably lie to themselves almost as much as they lie to the public. They are bought and paid for.
Everything I have just described is poisoning your mind in one way or another.

It is. THere is a certain ceremonial beauty to continuing those traditions. Sure, only one of those things is currently attainable but in games all those things are fun because they provide an escape from the mundane and boring.

Why is your life mundane and boring, slave? But honestly, all you are doing is role-playing the role-models they have given you. Why don't you just try being yourself for a change?

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Fun read.

I'll be honest and blunt and say I didn't care enough to read the whole thread and I don't expect a response. I just need a higher post count.

You could have got the same post count result with a one-line comment.

Such is life.

[Hollandrock]

An interesting thread...

A quick note on my view on the reputation system and its effect on psychology while writing
It is clear from most threads in the off-topic section that a poster with only half a reputation bar is not taken seriously, and is often dominated by the big bad guys with a full reputation bar. This does not mean to say that the intelligence behind posts and their quality are not correlated fairly closely to the size of any poster's reputation bar. just that this results in opinions skewed towards the green boxes.
Be it sub-concious or fully intentional, there's no real doubt - in my mind, that if you were to go to a different forum with a community very similar to that of this forum, the style of almost every post in this thread would be different. Even a simple thing such as a change of name on this forum - so you are less easily recognizable would effect the style of posting and the main purpose of any post.
For me, anyway, I am rather consciously using what should be totally over-verbose language for any section of a game-forum - to try and emphasize a point. The effect this creates is, in my opinion, very necessary in order to be taken seriously - (outside of any harry potter based community where the emphasis is placed more on how many spells you can name in a minute than a general range of vocabulary).

Onto the issue of the media and the significance of war
I think that the media is very important in our world. Without media, we would go back a couple of technological ages in our daily lives at home as we would be very much in the dark. Media as a way of giving news, providing entertainment and also allowing for advertisements is very important in our world - all our main political and social structures are based around free/cheap access to all kinds of information.

Just as easily as you could argue that media shows up any bad action anywhere in the world - you could attempt to bring across the opinion that media creates role models. These role models may have a completely faked life - with a faked family and faked activities with faked speeches and faked actions shown to a global audience, but they can have a huge impact on their audience. In order to avoid political bias, politicians generally are not portrayed like this, they are our leaders. Their action can effect us to no end.
If Barack Obama or David Cameron or Angela Merkel or any leader played the role of the pied piper towards a cliff, there would be many people that would happily jump off that cliff - like lemmings. But in the grand scheme of things it wouldn't matter.
In my opinion, there are already enough bad things happening in this world that war would not be the worst. Seeing that totally redesigning the system of our world is not feasible, I don't feel its even worth discussing any matters of war and peace. War is happening already - just that lives haven't been lost... yet. However, war is inevitable at some point.

A boy will fight with his siblings for sheer pleasure of fighting with them. A politician or a leader will not do this. Instead, they will fight to try and gain a reputation of being a good leader - because that's all that matters for them. A death to a human means nothing to many people - if an Australian were to die at any moment, I would be none the wiser, and although it sounds bad, but it doesn't effect me - so why should I care? One thing that could be assured is that I would care more than the leader of a terrorist organisation - or even a country that was behind this man's death - they wanted him to die, if I had the chance I would have attempted to stop it. This is the message I'm trying, very inelegantly, to put across - humans are selfish, man-kind isn't. The likelihood of humans destroying humans is significantly lower than the possibility of an alien race destroying humans - and this...

I need not complete my sentence and I may not complete my sentence as my opinion is based on the probability that current human models of probability are correct.