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    Quote Originally Posted by cushseth View Post
    Defending hero does not matter. I've explained it a million times, so now I'm just going to reply to every thread that says it does with "your wrong, read something".
    Defending Hero LEVEL don't matter much, defending Hero STATS does matter, however you cant scout stats (poly,attack,Intell) just level so scouting doesn't give you much hope of success. With low level hero's (sub 220) you take your chances and from time to time you will get larger than normal losses due to the defending hero stat's and a small random var in the fort's.

    For low level hero's against NPC 10's, it is safer to use other than the standard layer's

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    Quote Originally Posted by cushseth View Post
    Defending hero does not matter. I've explained it a million times, so now I'm just going to reply to every thread that says it does with "your wrong, read something".
    Ive talked till I was blue in the fingers about that exact thing. When I hear "But I scouted it, and the hero was only level 9, Why did I take so many troop losses?"

    The main things to look at when farming a lvl-10 NPC is your Tech level, your Heroes attack/leadership, Star set bonus and the wave setup your using.
    I always have at least a 9 star set bonus when farming LVL-10 NPCs. I'm sure you could use a 5 set bonus, but I don't care for extra losses.

    Techs that you should have:
    • Arch 10 (I don't farm LVL-10 NPCs with out it)
    • HBR 9 or 10. Some will argue that having 10 is a hindrance, but I think that this will only matter on LVL-14 or above NPCs. But that a debate for a later time.
    • Military Tradition
    • Logistics (sending 1900-2230 Transports, I don't have an updated total amount needed for a LVL-10 NPCs due to not testing it in a few servers)


    Now I send 2 different farming waves to LVL-10 NPCs. The determining factor is whether I need Justice medals or not. If you going for just Resources, then the setup should be a bit different.

    This is the exact setup I use for Farming Justice medals from LVL-10 NPCs. This setup yields great results for Nation and Justice medals. it is also what I use to Level HHs.
    First wave:
    • Transports 1500
    • Workers 1
    • Warriors 1500
    • Scouts 1
    • Pike 1
    • Swords 1
    • Archers 92000

    45-55 Seconds later the first following wave of:
    • Transports 1500
    • Workers 1
    • Warriors 1500
    • Scouts 1
    • Pike 1
    • Swords 1
    • Archers 25000

    45-55 Seconds later the second following wave of:
    • Transports 1500
    • Workers 1
    • Warriors 1500
    • Scouts 1
    • Pike 1
    • Swords 1
    • Archers 25000


    For farming Resources, I like to use:
    • Transports 2000
    • Warriors 1500
    • Warriors 1500
    • Scouts 3000
    • Archers 92000


    Like it was stated earlier, will find the best setup that works for them with minimal losses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThingOne View Post
    Ive talked till I was blue in the fingers about that exact thing. When I hear "But I scouted it, and the hero was only level 9, Why did I take so many troop losses?"

    The main things to look at when farming a lvl-10 NPC is your Tech level, your Heroes attack/leadership, Star set bonus and the wave setup your using.
    I always have at least a 9 star set bonus when farming LVL-10 NPCs. I'm sure you could use a 5 set bonus, but I don't care for extra losses.

    Techs that you should have:
    • Arch 10 (I don't farm LVL-10 NPCs with out it)
    • HBR 9 or 10. Some will argue that having 10 is a hindrance, but I think that this will only matter on LVL-14 or above NPCs. But that a debate for a later time.
    • Military Tradition
    • Logistics (sending 1900-2230 Transports, I don't have an updated total amount needed for a LVL-10 NPCs due to not testing it in a few servers)


    Now I send 2 different farming waves to LVL-10 NPCs. The determining factor is whether I need Justice medals or not. If you going for just Resources, then the setup should be a bit different.

    This is the exact setup I use for Farming Justice medals from LVL-10 NPCs. This setup yields great results for Nation and Justice medals. it is also what I use to Level HHs.
    First wave:
    • Transports 1500
    • Workers 1
    • Warriors 1500
    • Scouts 1
    • Pike 1
    • Swords 1
    • Archers 92000

    45-55 Seconds later the first following wave of:
    • Transports 1500
    • Workers 1
    • Warriors 1500
    • Scouts 1
    • Pike 1
    • Swords 1
    • Archers 25000

    45-55 Seconds later the second following wave of:
    • Transports 1500
    • Workers 1
    • Warriors 1500
    • Scouts 1
    • Pike 1
    • Swords 1
    • Archers 25000


    For farming Resources, I like to use:
    • Transports 2000
    • Warriors 1500
    • Warriors 1500
    • Scouts 3000
    • Archers 92000


    Like it was stated earlier, will find the best setup that works for them with minimal losses.
    the OP's hero's is level 181, I thought age II max was level 150, I might be wrong and since it's in general discussion it could be age II

    Anyway in AGE I, it is possible with correct tech's to get's these losses with a level 181 hero but rare. I don't play age II so Im not sure about that

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    Quote Originally Posted by LinziPaul View Post
    Defending Hero LEVEL don't matter much, defending Hero STATS does matter, however you cant scout stats (poly,attack,Intell) just level so scouting doesn't give you much hope of success. With low level hero's (sub 220) you take your chances and from time to time you will get larger than normal losses due to the defending hero stat's and a small random var in the fort's.

    For low level hero's against NPC 10's, it is safer to use other than the standard layer's
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    Quote Originally Posted by earlofspark View Post
    Afraid not, it only appeared in the chat window and I have refreshed since then. I do take on board the above points but still find it a little odd. I followed my first attack with another (same formula as Morgans) and lost 47k wit 28k pres. Thing is I have been attacking 10's all week and every single one I was losing between 15 and 12 k troops. My hero is getting bigger all the time but these last two attacks seem to be completely out of sync. Perhaps as one of the posters pointed out I have just been lucky up until now?
    If ur losing 12-15k arch with that formula and ur hero ur techs arent finished yet. I bet a tech just finished in ur academy that threw u off of safe loss level 10 farming

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz Light Year View Post
    If ur losing 12-15k arch with that formula and ur hero ur techs arent finished yet. I bet a tech just finished in ur academy that threw u off of safe loss level 10 farming
    Ah a fresh perspective and you may have a point.

    Need to have a look what finished around the time the reports changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by earlofspark View Post
    Ah a fresh perspective and you may have a point.

    Need to have a look what finished around the time the reports changed.
    Hmm not sure why it would effect it but think compass finished around that time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by earlofspark View Post
    Hmm not sure why it would effect it but think compass finished around that time?
    compass affects the speed of foot troops ie your archers, it would have a big effect. some levels of compass are actually beneficial to 10 farming, lvl 9 for instance if that was where you were at.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tipperary1 View Post
    compass affects the speed of foot troops ie your archers, it would have a big effect. some levels of compass are actually beneficial to 10 farming, lvl 9 for instance if that was where you were at.
    Yup that was it.

    Mystery solved, thank you to those involved.

    It was completely doing my head in and I think I alienated Cush along the way.

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    Is lvl 9 or 10 compass better for 8s?


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