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    Quote Originally Posted by TentPig View Post
    Why change the loyalty system at all? The whole point of the loyalty system was to give an offline player the ability to get online and defend and/or comfort to save their cities. In fact, evony sells something called the "Evony Membership" for 100 game cents which I believe (since I have never bought one) emails you if your city comes under attack.

    If you're going to change the game so anytime anyone wants to cap a city, why not just sell an item in the shop called "insta-cap" which allows you to apply it against anyone's city, and that city instantly becomes yours.

    That is, after all, the common theme of all these whiney threads, which have been going on and on and on for months now, because the "instant gratification American" can't get what he wants.

    Just like the toddler in the check-out line at the grocery store who spies some candy, and his mommy won't buy it for him.
    If they are offline how are they using speech texts? In the end, the ability to endlessly comfort ruins the game for everyone even those who endlessly comfort. If you are in a good alliance troops will be the determining factor in the battle.

    Speech texting, comforting, and using the governor on cities to keep them should be a part of the game, but only a PART. Right now it is very difficult to cap cities on Age II with some many ways to raise the loyalty on cities. Servers Na1 through Na19 are much tougher as there are accounts with hundreds of speech texts from the old facebook post. To help Evony I will offer some solutions. First, part of the problem is the energy of heroes and the high cost in energy to beat a city and then spam it, to fix energy as a problem then ever time a person raises the loyalty on a city the troops should benefit by regaining their energy and loyalty so the attacks can continue. People like to wait until the loyalty is as low as possible before using a speech text so it is drastically drawing out battles and some people have quite literally a life time supply, to fix this problem the way loyalty drops could be tied to the use of comforting so that after one comforting the loyalty starts dropping slowly at 14 instead of 15, after the second comfort the loyalty starts to slowly drop from 13 instead of 14, and continue the process until it can be capped like an npc at the end.

    At the end of the day this should be a war game with the end results based on the troops you have and how you have used them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anja View Post
    you're just trolling.
    The cry of those with intellectually vacuous arguments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TentPig View Post
    The cry of those with intellectually vacuous arguments.
    You are a troll, but in this case you are right. Changing comforting is healing a symptom instead of curing the disease.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TentPig View Post
    The cry of those with intellectually vacuous arguments.
    i think my arguments are pretty sound, especially since nobody on this thread(including you) has managed to logically refute them. until you do cupcake and your counter arguments amount to more than just "you're all whiners", nobody is going to take you seriously.

    and i wonder did you call acer intellectually vacuous when he suspended you for 2 weeks for trolling by spamming your cupcake drivel all over general discussion to cause flame wars.

    i did a little research on you tenty, you play a dead age 2 server, and on your age 1 server i have it on good authority that you bot and multi - account just as hard as the rest of them inspite of all your lip service on the forums.

    tbh i wonder if you ever even played age 2 to a competitive enough level where you wouldve encountered the comforting issue.

    i still await your responses for

    Quote Originally Posted by Rickie View Post
    Feel free to tell us how to cap the 16 back then.
    and that post from wolfgangma i cant find due to the complexities of the new forum advance search system.

    and chupacabra a there was a 50 page thread on this subject previously, i believe at the end of it the conclusion was that botting is too much a part of the game to be fixed now.

    if you want botting fixed, you better be willing to accept 90% of the playerbase abandoning ship, including good aul tentpig.

    since fixing a botting is not going to happen, now direct your attention towards fixes that counter the abilities of bots.
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    We can't just change game mechanics based on a specific situation. It sounds like both sides are working within the rules of the game and they are just being very meticulous about getting food back in there. We are continuing to evaluate the comforting/defense system and will make additional adjustments as necessary, but we have to be careful about taking too many tools away from defenders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anja View Post
    assuming these players are as smart as you say they are, they wouldnt comfort every 15 minutes on the dot costing themselves more food, but instead let the timer count down a bit,

    the rest of this post completely misses the point and latches on to the "these guys are simply whiners" bandwagon.

    and if age 1 is better, go back to your game of botting, trucing,holidaying and porting and stay out of our threads.


    The rest of the post was just my opinion on all your whining

    Clearly you are confused. Here you are complaining about how these people are botting their way and keeping the HC.. Clearly that makes age2 a botting game.
    Don't try to stereotype Age1 into 4 simple categories... its obviously more complex than that.

    Also you don't own this thread, if i wanna post i am going to. Deal with it.

    Perhaps instead of posting here you should be attacking the 16


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    Quote Originally Posted by Anja View Post
    and chupacabra a there was a 50 page thread on this subject previously, i believe at the end of it the conclusion was that botting is too much a part of the game to be fixed now.
    I disagree with that conclusion and the assumption that 90% of the player base would leave if bots didn't work anymore. As long as we are throwing random numbers out there, I'd say 80-90% of the people that do it are doing it because they need to to stay competitive with other botters. Instead of altering the game to account for bots, kill them and alter the game so that it does what the bot does in regards to farming / hero leveling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anja View Post
    i think my arguments are pretty sound, especially since nobody on this thread(including you) has managed to logically refute them. until you do cupcake and your counter arguments amount to more than just "you're all whiners", nobody is going to take you seriously.
    Actually what long-time players, especially those of us from Age 1, don't take serious are the constant whining from Age 2 players who think everything has to be "Fair", and the rules need to be constantly changed simply because you can't figure out how to "win".

    It is, unfortunately, a sad statement that a condition found within American society today, prevalent among its youth, where everyone has to be a winner, everyone has a get a gold star, everyone needs to get a cupcake -- has permeated itself into the world of competitive Evony game play. Case in point:

    http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/217...ght-in-ipswich

    These are the same type of people who would be on Evony demanding the comforting system be changed so nobody feels bad about themselves not being able to cap an HC.


    and i wonder did you call acer intellectually vacuous when he suspended you for 2 weeks for trolling by spamming your cupcake drivel all over general discussion to cause flame wars.
    Acer's a mod, he can suspend me whenever he feels it appropriate to do so, if he feels I'm violating the forum rules; this is Evony's forum, not mine, I have no "freedom of speech" here, they set the ground rules. I do, however, stand by my opinions that I post.

    By the way... you *did* know that posting public accusations of TOS violations against another Evony player is a violation of the forum rules and a sanctionable offense, right?


    i did a little research on you tenty, you play a dead age 2 server, and on your age 1 server i have it on good authority that you bot and multi - account just as hard as the rest of them inspite of all your lip service on the forums.
    DAMN! You found me out! Well, at least you didn't discover the little tidbit about me and the farmer's goat.... ooops... did I say that? where's the edit button?

    By the way, you forgot to accuse me of account-sharing too. Don't forget to throw that one in there.

    Truth be told, I actually employee hundreds of thousands of people in Longhua, Shenzhen, China . They run my millions of alts on iPads we pilfer from the Longhua Science & Technology Park at night in secret commando raids.


    tbh i wonder if you ever even played age 2 to a competitive enough level where you wouldve encountered the comforting issue.
    Well, you should know, after all, you did all this "research" on me...
    Last edited by TentPig; 03-20-2013 at 09:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by david_k700 View Post
    The rest of the post was just my opinion on all your whining

    Clearly you are confused. Here you are complaining about how these people are botting their way and keeping the HC.. Clearly that makes age2 a botting game.
    Don't try to stereotype Age1 into 4 simple categories... its obviously more complex than that.

    Also you don't own this thread, if i wanna post i am going to. Deal with it.

    Perhaps instead of posting here you should be attacking the 16
    since you clearly know next to nothing about age 2, that renders your opinion next to worthless in this section of the forums.

    age 2 is a botting game, all of evony is, i never said it wasnt. age 1 however is worse if we are to judge by the war city screenshots you guys post on the forums.

    i never said you couldnt post in this thread, post away it has little effect on me. but i am fully entitled to call you out on your nonsense. like you say, deal with it.

    i am not hitting any 16 sunshine, thats the op and maybe one or 2 other posters, i'm merely an objective outsider.

    Quote Originally Posted by NA12ChupaCabra View Post
    I disagree with that conclusion and the assumption that 90% of the player base would leave if bots didn't work anymore. As long as we are throwing random numbers out there, I'd say 80-90% of the people that do it are doing it because they need to to stay competitive with other botters. Instead of altering the game to account for bots, kill them and alter the game so that it does what the bot does in regards to farming / hero leveling.
    yes well... after a year of constant complaining and campaigning to have bots removed. im sure your completely unheard of throwaway suggestion on this thread is gonna motivate evo to get off their ass and ban all bots.

    *waits*


    *waits*

    ppl still botting?

    *waits some more*

    hmm, the outlook isnt good is it

    Quote Originally Posted by TentPig View Post
    cynical self righteous nonsense
    alls fair in love and war princess
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anja View Post
    alls fair in love and war princess
    Oh baby. hurt me. make me squeal like the piglet I am...

    oops... wrong forum, sorry.

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