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    Quote Originally Posted by acer5200 View Post
    Browsers come with spell check for a reason.

    Seriously though, these 'LETS NEVER SPEND MONEY AND BUY CENTS AGAIN" boycotts never work. It's all hot air and steam from a vocal minority claiming that they represent their entire server.

    Notable examples: Server 127 upset that they weren't merged. Server ss47 upset that they weren't merged. Captcha. Server 151 having lag issues. Server ss1 not being merged. etc etc etc.
    ss1 got merged
    edit: Where is capatcha now days ? Think that was gone when evony had to deal with those protests too.

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    The only way around the IP limits are proxies, VPNs, and the likes.

    Dawn has said they are working on the proxy detection and will mete out harsher punishments to those found using proxies to run their bots.

    Other options like VPNs or cloud servers with dynamic ip cost rental fees per month.

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    Bots came about for two reasons.

    One, because farming mad hours every day to feed an army is tedious, time consuming, and by the time you are done farming to feed the troops, you are in no mood, nor have the time to actually fight anyone.

    Two, because people put much time, effort, and often money into leveling up hero's, and no one wants to come home from work to find that they have lost a city, and their best training hero, or wall hero with it.

    Multi accounting came around as a way to feed ever growing armies, and provide the resources necessary to build them.


    I don't believe that any kind of IP ban or other limit is going to rid the game of the problem. There are some brilliant people playing the game, someone will always figure out a way around technological blocks.

    The way to rid the game of bots and multi accounting is to make changes to the game that render such things useless. Remove the advantage that botting, or running 200 alts gives a player, and you will get rid of the alts and bots.

    I don't believe for even a minute that the big troop counts are causing any significant problems for the servers, the problems come from one player running 200 alts all on bots, all of which are constantly spamming the server with commands at a far faster rate than any human player could ever manage. So then, the goals should be to get rid of the alts, and the bots. I don't think forcing lower troop counts is going to help things in any significant way.

    So, what I propose is this:

    First off, food, and resources. Rework the game so that building a city with 10 farms, 10 saw mills, 10 iron mines, and 10 quarries will produce enough food, and resources to build and feed the massive armies that are so common now. This move alone will remove the need for having tons of alts. The alts are only there to provide food that can't be provided with only 10 cities.

    Next, hero's. Right now, if you cap a players last city, you don't get it. The city goes into limbo, and is there waiting for the player the next time they log in. I propose something similar for hero's. If an attacker caps your city while you (or your bot) are logged in to your account, then the hero's bolt, or are captured by the attacker just like they are now. However, if an attacker caps your city while there is no one (or bot) logged into your account, then all the hero's in that city go into limbo. The attacker gets the city like normal, but when the defender logs in, his (her) hero's are available to them, either to be moved into an open slot in an existing city, or if they get another city, the hero's can be restored to it. This way, having a bot tend your account while you are offline is actually a detriment, as it may cost you a good hero.

    Something would likely have to be done to address being able to queue troops up to build all night, or all day while someone is at work, but aside from that, this system would remove nearly all of the advantages of multi-accounting and botting.

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    Default This situation between the botters and Evony remind me of "Lord of the Flies."

    For those who have read the book or seen to movie "Lord of the Flies", I am sure you get the point. At an allegorical level, the central theme is the conflicting human impulses toward civilization—living by rules, peacefully and in harmony—and toward the will to power. Themes include the tension between groupthink and individuality, between rational and emotional reactions, and between morality and immorality. How these play out, and how different people feel the influences of these, form a major subtext of "Lord of the Flies"

    Evony in a nutshell is just like "Lord of the Flies"

    The moral of the story is that if you take people out of an ordinary, civilized environment that abides by rules.....you end up with people that are power-hungry and want to dominate others at all cost. As such.....it is like the botters wanting no rules applying to them so they can built their powerful armies in order to be able to dominate other players at all cost.

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    So i hear the IP restriction is no longer...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Titanis View Post
    ss1 got merged
    edit: Where is capatcha now days ? Think that was gone when evony had to deal with those protests too.
    Yea, ss1 got merged 2 years after that so-called 'protest' and the captcha lasted for about 9 months afterwards too.

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    here is a thought Evony devs... why dont you try enforcing a halt on the creation of new accounts on old servers. only let new accounts open on new servers.

    and with that... if an account is zeroed out... it should be sent to a new server on being brought back from the dead.

    this will at least stabilize the population on each server and cause each to gradually decline to the point at which servers need to be merged.

    plus one this suggestion by clicking on the star to the bottom left of this post.


    (as to definition of "old server" - any server that has been merged.)
    Last edited by TECH-ss48; 02-15-2014 at 03:28 AM.

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    I GOT IT best idea ever. Dawnseeker says the big issue is people have tons of alts and don't coin on the alts, so how about this. Instead of limiting connections and driving us to spend our money on ways around it, how about you allow us to designate an acct AS AN ALT...charge for the right to make these specialized alt accts that do things main accnts don't, like troop linits higher res production, faster movements of res. THAN you can sell the special accts special items, like double res production for a week, etc.....If you sell players a better version of an alt ill bet they buy the better alts, then you can sell them alt items, only purchasable from alt accts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cushseth View Post
    You said what I said as if you were about to disagree... I'm confused by why you phrased it that way. I said they are choosing to limit rather than ban, and you just listed a further reason as to why they would do that. But my point again, they are "letting" you bot. So that part of your original argument doesn't mean anything.

    I never said why your theory on forcing them to change the servers back wouldn't work, you assumed I would argue that they wouldn't lose that much money. They probably will lose some income. I'm sure they'll save some money though, in the long run. But I don't think the boycott will even last, let alone get widespread enough for Evony to care.

    And I'm not saying their letting you bot because they've done nothing about it in the past. I've been banned for it. I'm saying it because Dawnseeker has said multiple times only people WHO BOT are getting limited to 3... and none of my posts mentioning it have been deleted yet... which is a new thing.
    well we have 20 servers now represented in our interserver skype room ...so i guess u might like to rethink about this protest "getting widespread" with more joining by the hour...if u are a host or vh of an alliance then like all from any server u are welcome to join our skype and and voice ur opinion
    Last edited by carlbarlow; 02-15-2014 at 08:46 AM.

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    All this worry about omg my alts won't log in has no one been taking advantage of this time? Where are the great offline kills I expected to see why is everyone whining instead of plundering ur enemies hard multi bottled hub city full of res that he was unable to run, ya Evony changed the rules ya its gonna get boring so why not be taking advantage of it as much as possible farm that red steal his
    heroes make him pssed at evonys new solution as much as you are lol can't log can't endlessly speech etc

    Noobs
    Quote Originally Posted by acer5200 View Post
    PS: Mech wasn't trolling.

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