We are looking at changes right now that take away the advantage of having bots.
We are looking at changes right now that take away the advantage of having bots.
Legendary Hero
So what you are saying is you are not necessarily going to stop buts but try to find a way to make their purposes obsolete or greatly underpowered in comparison to what they are now. I can understand if this is the case and honestly don't blame you for taking this route. I do blame you for taking this long to do it. I was one of the latter people to start botting. I was so far behind on the server I decided to pick up the bot that it took me almost 3 months to catch up to the big guys. I just don't get how you can take 4 years to fix this, especially now that bots are in such widespread use that most people have become accustomed to them and even the players like me who were strongly against them at first see their benefits and addition to the game.
I am at this state with Evony. I played it for over 2 years legit without bots or alts. I was getting tired of the game. It served its purpose to me. I still love it but just did not have the time to play competitively. It was all good when i was in college and only had to commit to 15 hours a week of class and the rest of the time I was either on the computer studying or on the campus with 100 computer labs at my disposal 24 hours a day to check in. Once I got out in the workforce that quickly stopped. So for me my Evony days were at an end. I decided to try out the bot and it allowed me to continue playing a game i had a lot of passion for. It was the best of both worlds.
Bots back in that day were a lot less complex than today. They farmed and did the grunt work for you, and although a lot of the features that are around today were technically around back then, it was not as widespread knowledge so they were basically used for farming, building NPCs, medal farming and building troops. Today the bots do everything. You can start an account, plug a bot on it and take it straight to the top 10 without ever having to log in and barely spending a dime. Trust me I have done it with just 30$ spent multiple times lol. Now saying that I can also say that for almost 5 years I have had a passion for the game and have spent much more than that on servers I really delve into.
My suggestion is this. Take out the worst part of Evony an bots and meet in the middle. Part of the reason your retention rate has been so great in age 1 is bots. I was getting tired of farming after 6 months. I did it for 2 years before caving. Not everyone will be that persistent in a game like this. Create an interface that interacts with evony, and is programmable by players. However take out the defending. Crack down on the 3rd party bots and the alts and make the game fair for everyone without the time constraint. If you do this it truly will be an equal battlefield for all and it wont jeopardize your player base and will most likely not effect your profit margins as much as killing bots off altogether. Bots were great when they were used just to do the grunt work while you work/sleep/play. They kinda suck now that they can be programmed to literally play the game start to finish for you.
Last edited by Buzz Light Year; 02-25-2014 at 02:52 AM.
Fan of BOTS!!! ( Auto-Bots Of Course )
one of my idea would be if you are off line your account is then offline that way you don't have to worry about your bot to defend this does not mean if you get attacked to jump off line that part would have to be worked out but if you are off line your city also don't to anything does not eat food and does not build troops so it will also push everyone to stay online with your account to build then make the npc disapeer like in age2 or make it where the npcs changes levels every now and then that ways the bot see it at a level then opps it changes to a level 10 but the way I see everything I think the hole game is going to change as I don't see how you will get it back the the way it was intend to play with out pretty much making a new game inless you go back to if botting 12 hour ban I think that was more then fair but since it sounds like you guys are going to do what ever the coiners going to do so it is there game it looks like I have a feeling at the end it will be a lot of empty servers as a lot of others that don't coin will just stop playing then the coiners wont have people to push around anymore so they will quit to I am trying to say that evony is going to need bot coiners and non coiner as most of the time not many coiners go after coiners lol another thing that needs to change is selling accounts anyways sorry for rambleing hurt my back on good pain killer
Zipzag/host of Wardens na19
We agree with the spirit of this thread. The best solution is one in which bots no longer confer any advantage.
Legendary Hero
Evony will be closing soon.
Maybe a secondary login, only in Evony that bots couldn't read. Put it in the avatar, or somewhere. Then players would have to click and add another login to activate.
Just an idea.
But the bots should go, they're killing the game for everyone.
Bots send login passwords. Bots can send security codes when they are needed. They can interface systems to auto-solve captas that are completely unreadable to humans, so system like that make the game unplayable to people but the bots can continue as if nothing is wrong. IP bans kill people who do not understand such things as proxy hiding, but bots can be set up to do it automatically. I think bots can handle a secondary password just fine, better than people can.
Bots would be no issue if they did nothing but the menial tasks as the writers claim, but that is simply not the truth. They bypass rules, such as for a long time allowing people to double truce until Evony finally stopped that. That allow mass scanning of the map which is a designed limitation in the legal interface. They don't do the menial farming, they farm constantly 7x24 every day. They allow timed waves to be launched from multiple cities to all be launched at the same time and land in specific sequences at specific times, something that is not possible in the legal interface. Yes, I can time waves just fine in the web interface, but they cannot be launched at the same time, you can only launch 1 wave per minute that way per city, the bot can do hundreds. The bots can give audible attack warnings to wake you out of sleep. The bot captures system messages and reports them and saves them to give information about other people's activities that is not supposed to be available. They perform battle tactics that are a skill for players to learn and pull off, but most of the users do not even know it is happening. They garbage up the playing field with a stupid clutter of worthless npc's instead of human players to spar with. They do things like give information about heroes that the only legal way to know is to use game items. They are cheats, not tools. It embarrasses me to no end that I caved and started using one, and I want the freaking real game back.
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