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    This is the problem with the IP ban...(again)..... The average player who runs between 5-20 accts on their Laptop, and or PC is NOT as tech savvy as the guy who runs 40-100 accts. The Tech savvy 40-100 acct player uses everything from personal servers, to VPN's, to Proxy lists and IP hiders. The BIG 40-100 account players are the FIRST to get around IP bans. While the average player gets frozen out and wiped.

    The effect on evony is the average players who coin sometimes quit. Those players NEEDED 5-20 alts to survive the unaffected 40-100 alt players....while the 40-100 account players who coin a lot, use their money to buy IP hiders, personal servers, and proxy lists.....End result is Evony loses money when the average players quit, and evony loses money when the big players use their coin money to buy 3rd party cheats.

    The solution is for evony to see that the game they created has since been altered by the players. They need to design their game in accordance to what the players have shown they want. 1 example ask a player when he starts an acct if he wants that acct to be a feeder or a war acct. If its chosen to be a feeder, than it comes with certain items that can only be bought in feeders, or different rules that govern those accts differently from war accts. Don't read too much into the idea example, but see my point. Bottom line the players are trying to play the game in a way that Evony did not intend to have the game played. BUT now that you know what your customers like, than re-mold the game into something as close to what the players want it to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bum783 View Post
    This is the problem with the IP ban...(again)..... The average player who runs between 5-20 accts on their Laptop, and or PC is NOT as tech savvy as the guy who runs 40-100 accts. The Tech savvy 40-100 acct player uses everything from personal servers, to VPN's, to Proxy lists and IP hiders. The BIG 40-100 account players are the FIRST to get around IP bans. While the average player gets frozen out and wiped.

    The effect on evony is the average players who coin sometimes quit. Those players NEEDED 5-20 alts to survive the unaffected 40-100 alt players....while the 40-100 account players who coin a lot, use their money to buy IP hiders, personal servers, and proxy lists.....End result is Evony loses money when the average players quit, and evony loses money when the big players use their coin money to buy 3rd party cheats.

    The solution is for evony to see that the game they created has since been altered by the players. They need to design their game in accordance to what the players have shown they want. 1 example ask a player when he starts an acct if he wants that acct to be a feeder or a war acct. If its chosen to be a feeder, than it comes with certain items that can only be bought in feeders, or different rules that govern those accts differently from war accts. Don't read too much into the idea example, but see my point. Bottom line the players are trying to play the game in a way that Evony did not intend to have the game played. BUT now that you know what your customers like, than re-mold the game into something as close to what the players want it to be.
    Thanks for this well-thought and constructive feedback. We appreciate it.
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    You appreciate it but nothing will come of it. You guess are pretty dismissive of the problem here. You still have people multi accounting and playing on unaffected while others are still locked out. Servers are becoming ghostly pretty quickly these days. Maybe if you keep going no one will play anymore. Well except for those 100 acct players who never seem to be shut down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamble View Post

    in any case i would like to address your argument comparing bot use to multi accounting..................the average person that uses a bot on evony uses it to farm and to train troops, they do this because they have jobs, commitments, lives that just dictate that they cant be stuck in front of a computer 24/7, they like the game and find it to be a good way for them to keep up and play at a level that makes it fun.....
    however comparing this style of game play to multi-accounting we can see quite a big gulf in the advantage that is given to the player, while the 1 account bot for fun player is merely keeping up in a game where if your not constantly playing you fall off the map pretty fast, the serious abuser is driving 20/30/40 accounts all bot run, wether its age1 or age2 it doesn't matter, age1 abusers want the extra accounts to food farm and subsidize their main account with food that has all the troops they can feed with the instant troops heros, age2 abusers want the extra accounts so they can train troops and draft them into their main accounts.

    anyway...i digress....like i said before, dont cry when evony try and do something about cheats because we all cheat at this game, its the nature, just accept it and move on, the game was far better before rampant bot use and multi multi multi accounting. the biggest problem when i started was having somebody (apart from the owner) log into the account you were hitting.


    So you think having 20/30/40 alts is worse than botting? If you eliminated botting you'd eliminate 99% of alts.

    Quit crying about how the game used to be, its obviously changed over the course of 5years.

    If evony truely wanted to stop alts they'd stop botting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    The IP limits are placed as needed on servers when load from bots is too high. If people didn't use bots, there wouldn't be any IP limit.
    how odd our server had almost no lag yet we got it too. If you just got coins on your alts... i would suggest a cb of those accounts let dawnseeker put them in holiday for non payment.....
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    Since today it seems not only an IP ban, but several accounts stopped working from various IPs.

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    Nice, not a single comment from a moderator trying to set things straight with the players. Either mixed messages or simple ignorance of the situation must be the order of the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    The IP limits are placed as needed on servers when load from bots is too high. If people didn't use bots, there wouldn't be any IP limit.
    Most people nowadays run bots and have dozens of alts to try and keep the server alive, more accounts not dead means more people to attack and more fun to try and squeeze out of the game :/
    i can tell ya SS78 would be VERY empty if everyone had no bots or alts. probably all around only 100 -200 people left there that still play.

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    lol i so agree with that before the bots and multi accounting the game was just plain boring.


    Quote Originally Posted by Beelan View Post
    Most people nowadays run bots and have dozens of alts to try and keep the server alive, more accounts not dead means more people to attack and more fun to try and squeeze out of the game :/
    i can tell ya SS78 would be VERY empty if everyone had no bots or alts. probably all around only 100 -200 people left there that still play.

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    Dear evony why cant i log into any account without a ***ing bot????????? a 20 account limit my ass i havent been able to login to anything for a week I WANT MY PAYPAL MONEY BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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