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  1. #41
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    A quick update on the situation.

    CC2 Khans are gearing up to retire in full effect.

    There is no point to play the game once the game has been corrupted to such a degree and all communication has been rejected. This is not a mass withdrawl money type deal but many others feel the same that it is pointless to play the game after what has happened and the choice that evony has made to respond to the matter. After 4++ years of playing the game I enjoyed myself and others along side me through the good times and the bad.. i had great times moreso than bad but not the bad out-weigh the good.. i taught people alot of things.. good and bad and i'd do it again.

    But as a whole my whole entire team feel so disrespected that this incident has been handled incorrectly so much so that our time is up. To the best of luck to the next generation of hax0rs and glitch0rs. But this is Khans NA1/CC2 formally signing out due to complete and utter disrespect after 4-5 years of gameplay from the devel team and constant requests to level out the game to be equal so that people could not bot comfort 12,14,16,18's. Its sad but if your reading this now know that not even 4+ years of harping can change this broken game to be equal

    K-Thx-Gbye. clear my troops 0,0
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    Last edited by nailbomb; 05-16-2014 at 12:00 AM.

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    I don't believe the way evony wants to approach this is the correct way. I think that Thalin or an Administrator should make a formal statement about the situation on the forums about this. Giving us info about penalizations, suspensions, roll backs and other actions that will be taken, which would be against a majority of age 2 players. If there were mods on here, and more evony representatives that actually watched the forums and helped players, this wouldn't have been such a big leak. Not saying this was totally evony's fault, and lack of competence, since some players could share the blame, but it weighs more toward evony. Hope evony makes a wise decision and actually listens to the players on this situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davemata View Post
    Deleting the troops and not doing the exploit would be great. It would be like Christmas for me.

    I would suggest reporting anyone you find performing the glitch. I would also suggest keeping records of who they are, get a little coalition together, and group attack them.
    Always nice to have an evony response.

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    Glad to see a response from evony on this. Unfortunately the damage is done. I think every 16 on 54 changed hands at least once. If the glitch is patched and the troops obtained from cheating removed, evony still needs to find a way to compensate those who lost hc's due to the troop glitch. This is evonys chance to show that they truly appreciate their customers by setting things right. Also, evony needs a dedicated person to be on the forums and facebook to communicate with players when there are issues. Many of us submitted tickets reporting the cheating and either got no response or a canned form letter. In utter disgust of the situation I posted on the forums how ppl were doing the glitch. I did this for two reasons. 1. So evony would know how it is being done and 2. to try to bring some balance back to the servers. Not saying what I did was right or wrong. We shall see how evony resolves this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtober82 View Post
    Glad to see a response from evony on this. Unfortunately the damage is done. I think every 16 on 54 changed hands at least once. If the glitch is patched and the troops obtained from cheating removed, evony still needs to find a way to compensate those who lost hc's due to the troop glitch. This is evonys chance to show that they truly appreciate their customers by setting things right. Also, evony needs a dedicated person to be on the forums and facebook to communicate with players when there are issues. Many of us submitted tickets reporting the cheating and either got no response or a canned form letter. In utter disgust of the situation I posted on the forums how ppl were doing the glitch. I did this for two reasons. 1. So evony would know how it is being done and 2. to try to bring some balance back to the servers. Not saying what I did was right or wrong. We shall see how evony resolves this.

    Has anyone ever gotten a real response to a support ticket? You still hoping that evony cares? The only care is lining their pockets, after the glitch is plugged and they ban one or two account to make it seem like they are doing something, there will still be suckers that will stay. The good part is that those that stay will not be the ones that spend money. I have not played the game as long as many others, so for that I thank GOD. Wake up and smell the roses, there will be minimal correction if any and the game as we know it is done.

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    unless evony can trace, and delete all troops associated with this then the game is broken beyond repair. glitched troops will no doubt have been "laundered" via drafting trough many accounts now and into main accounts.

    the real root of the problem is multi-accounting, solve this problem and much of what is wrong with evony will be fixed.

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    I think it's unfair to say Evony don't care or are not responding to this issue. As it stands their game is broken, so it makes no sense to say they are doing nothing. This may not be an easy fix and while davemata is giving us some updates, we shouldn't expect a second by second ticker.

    The main thing is they will get it fixed, timescale may not be known and consequences for players can come at a later stage.

    The lag is the main thing, but I am sure that's all tied in with this problem.

    I have been playing since NA18, and while I have been critical of them in the past, I am sure they are doing the best they can.

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    No response apart from the same old scripted replies you always get. As a lot of people are saying and which I agree with, of all the glitches there are or have been this is the one that's go a kill of this game for good. It's bad enough people account sharing, bit defending HCs, filling flats for miles with alts, not being able to attack due to hero capping via the bot, and now with evony saying that basically they can't do much about this I,e taking glitches troops back, kinda makes porting pointless now especially when people have gained 100s of millions of mech in one night.

    So it's been a fun 4 years but I think my time has come to call it a day, unless evony decide to do somthing about the numorous issues.

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    If all you sent was a rant/hate mail to evony Staff, they aren't gonna waste time giving you a real response.

    Even a nice complaint will probably be ignored at this point. That said, I have gotten a real email back from evony staff before, but I also took the time to file a more useful bug report. IE, a step by step procedure so that the devs could reproduce a problem. Even those responses were short. Mostly just a thanks or a question to clarify something.. It's because they are busy fixing the problems you dumb ***s!!!! REALLY BUSY!! Like putting in 14 hour days cause they are losing a lot of money.

    As far as fixing glitches. Most people who have never done *any* programing won't be aware that the bug may not even be in evony's servre/client software, but could be in Flash or what ever language the server is written in. In fact, it could even be a bug in the OS the server is running on or other software the main server engine uses (like the database server) for example.

    I write a bit of perl and c++, and we've had bugs that weren't in our code, but were in the compiler (gcc)/interpreter (perl binary).. so it took a long time to actually hunt them down.. and even more time to get them fixed (because we couldn't fix them and had to wait on other to do *their* bug hunt). Hopefully these bugs are in evony's code, and not in Flash or any number of systems the evony server is depending on. If the latter is the case, it could take a LONG time for a fix to happen.


    Devs;

    Good luck with your bug hunt!!


    Players;

    They are doing stuff. On na54 my main account was already banned for using the troop glitch. I was very obvious about the fact I was using it. I don't waste time on rumors and heard about it after about 28 days into the server.. so me and some of my more experienced players investigated it. Once we verified it was real some of my players filed reports <text promoting fraud removed. -d>

    Even with the ban tho, that account still had all it's troops, and I had also tested it on a few alts (and those haven't been banned yet).


    Staff;

    Banning won't fix this problem. It's far too pervasive. You're only real option is a rollback to day 1. There are just way too many glitched troops in circulation in the environment (and I don't care that I got banned - I care about my players who spent a lot of time and money - some spent hundreds of dollars and many put in 8+ hour days).

    Think about it, even opening gates on the 16s and locking the accounts, no ligit player is gonna be able to build the troops up to clear out all those glitched troops anytime soon. And what of a small few who didn't use the glitch? (supposedly the player Chris holding 0.0 on na54 didn't), He has still been drafting people who did.

    Rather then waste time trying to find everyone who glitched troops and banning them.. just wait till the server is patched, then reset it to day 1. I know that may not be a viable option for any servers before na54, but I can't think of any way to truly fix it.


    Evony Legal;

    THIS IS ACTUAL NOTICE THAT YOU HAVE 24 HOURS TO PROVIDE NOTICE OF THIS ISSUE ON THE MAIN PAGE AND TO CLOSE THE SHOP TILL YOU FIX YOUR GAME. SELLING PRODUCT(S) KNOWN TO BE DAMAGED WITHOUT FULL DISCLOSURE IS FRAUD. FAILURE TO COMPLY WILL RESULT IN EVONY ET. AL. BEING REPORTED TO THE PROPER LEGAL AUTHORITIES. THERE MAY BE GROUNDS FOR BOTH CIVIL AND CRIMINAL ACTION.
    Last edited by davemata; 05-16-2014 at 10:55 AM.

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    Anaxis, most of what you posted I can agree with.

    We've been working on this issue for a good period of time now, and have begun corrective steps as well.

    The thing is, there is no "make right" button that we can click and suddenly everything is fixed. We have to find out what's going on, work on it, test it, implement it, etc. These things take time. All the while, people exploit away merrily, further disrupting the game for themselves and others.

    Servers won't be rolled back at this time. We're also not closing the game to fulfill your demands.

    I would also strongly advise against committing fraud, or recommending that others do it. No good will come of it for you.

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