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  1. #51

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Perv View Post
    True words :P
    Coiners take advantage of being coiners obviously, and they take advantage of glitches, but rarely do they get banned (xept for occasion money recall or bot ban),
    +rep Cushseth
    No, I don't agree... According my experience, coiners are treated worse than some players who never paid anything. We know well who is coiner and who isn't on our server. Some of them left game after excessive troop deletion... no no to coining. no return of investment.

  2. #52

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    For Clarity No-one logged onto the account to buy a package.
    They were gifted a package by a red who then recalled.
    To do this they only need your FB id number which can be aquired from any evony post you make "HNM etc)
    Dont have to be friends , dont need email adress ,dont need logins its another "Glytch" thats wide open to abuse.
    I suspect though have no proof they even sent themselves the free vesta. On this proviso they could gain hundreds of vestas free of charge.
    Create an account
    buy package sending the vesta to main account
    recall payment.
    Created account gets banned but gifted vesta sticks.
    What you lost????
    Answer about 10 mins of time.

  3. #53

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    Quote Originally Posted by T1NCA View Post
    For Clarity No-one logged onto the account to buy a package.
    They were gifted a package by a red who then recalled.
    To do this they only need your FB id number which can be aquired from any evony post you make "HNM etc)
    Dont have to be friends , dont need email adress ,dont need logins its another "Glytch" thats wide open to abuse.
    I suspect though have no proof they even sent themselves the free vesta. On this proviso they could gain hundreds of vestas free of charge.
    Create an account
    buy package sending the vesta to main account
    recall payment.
    Created account gets banned but gifted vesta sticks.
    What you lost????
    Answer about 10 mins of time.
    Well that just strengthens my argument further then, that's even less of an offense. Lol. Thanks for the clarification, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prodigy the 5 View Post
    cush has a point... and he is right
    Ya.

  4. #54

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    Quote Originally Posted by cushseth View Post
    I suppose they could trace the IP.
    They can do more than trace the IP address. They can verify many details via the company that handled the actual bank transaction such as PayPal, such as email address and obtain the name of the person involved.

    My definition is to call this theft, simply as T1NCA said previously, by using this tactic, they are gaining a free Vesta, plus if this was done during a special promotion, they would obtain other free goodies, as would any names they place into the boxes such as their Alliance mates. This could be classed as obtaining goods under deception. So who is being ripped off? The game developers, definitely. The account abused in such a way is also closed thereby eliminating an enemy that they could not otherwise kill off in game legally. How many other players have been affected by these tactics, by this one player, or even this one Alliance?

    Personal attacks in game or posts on forums are considered legal threats and can be reported to any police force. Chat logs and phone records can be used as evidence in a court case. Bullying and harassment on line is illegal. The perpetrator need to be dealt with and removed from our community. The attempt to hack my own FB account (I'm assuming by the same person or group) HAS been reported to the police and is under investigation.

    What do I ask of Evony to fix this? Perhaps a fix could be to mask the Facebook ID numbers, similar to credit cards where only the last four digits are displayed. A change could be made to the payments system where a verification system such as those used in other games such as WoW could be used to validate the payment, or a code sent via txt or email to verify the payment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alliendre View Post
    They can do more than trace the IP address. They can verify many details via the company that handled the actual bank transaction such as PayPal, such as email address and obtain the name of the person involved.

    My definition is to call this theft, simply as T1NCA said previously, by using this tactic, they are gaining a free Vesta, plus if this was done during a special promotion, they would obtain other free goodies, as would any names they place into the boxes such as their Alliance mates. This could be classed as obtaining goods under deception. So who is being ripped off? The game developers, definitely. The account abused in such a way is also closed thereby eliminating an enemy that they could not otherwise kill off in game legally. How many other players have been affected by these tactics, by this one player, or even this one Alliance?

    Personal attacks in game or posts on forums are considered legal threats and can be reported to any police force. Chat logs and phone records can be used as evidence in a court case. Bullying and harassment on line is illegal. The perpetrator need to be dealt with and removed from our community. The attempt to hack my own FB account (I'm assuming by the same person or group) HAS been reported to the police and is under investigation.

    What do I ask of Evony to fix this? Perhaps a fix could be to mask the Facebook ID numbers, similar to credit cards where only the last four digits are displayed. A change could be made to the payments system where a verification system such as those used in other games such as WoW could be used to validate the payment, or a code sent via txt or email to verify the payment.

    "Personal attacks in game or posts on forums are considered legal threats and can be reported to any police force." Since you know this is correct why not stop accusing others of doing something to an account that doesn't belong to any of you all and mostly shouting out how others (reds) did this without showing no proof.
    Same goes with the so called free vesta's. Once again where is the proof before accusing unknown people for doing something or did you use this so called glitch yourselves so you know it even works?

    Do think some people do not understand the concept of accusing others people in forums without providing one type of proof. The account we all play on evony aren't ours to start with. Evony TOS state that all acc's belong and will always belong to evony. So you can't call it theft when the account you talk about belongs to no one else but evony.
    Last you keep yelling that you all think reds (other players of same game) did this. How can you be sure it's not done by one of your own members who has logs. Didn't evony also block t1nca account and now another account in the same alliance got banned. Weird stuff going on in that alliance.

    Maybe it's time they do check their own financials before they buy coins or even realize they got banned for exploiting glitches on the server. And even more troubling after they get banned they call out evony. Not sure where you are all from but if you want something done by a second party i am not sure shouting at them how their CS is so bad won't improve their speed or willingness to help you.

    One last thought, if you all do not like this game anymore why you keep playing it. There are tons of games to play, stop crying and start playing or move on and stop acting like an addict
    Last edited by malicor; 08-06-2014 at 03:48 AM.

  6. #56

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alliendre View Post
    They can do more than trace the IP address. They can verify many details via the company that handled the actual bank transaction such as PayPal, such as email address and obtain the name of the person involved.
    I'm fairly certain if he used a credit card they'd know his name already without doing all that nonsense. But so? What do you propose they do with that information once they have it? I suppose they could send him a sternly worded letter...

    Quote Originally Posted by Alliendre View Post
    My definition is to call this theft, simply as T1NCA said previously, by using this tactic, they are gaining a free Vesta, plus if this was done during a special promotion, they would obtain other free goodies, as would any names they place into the boxes such as their Alliance mates. This could be classed as obtaining goods under deception. So who is being ripped off? The game developers, definitely.
    And then we remembered those free items are going into accounts that belong to the developers anyways. He didn't get anything, you didn't lose anything. His alliance members didn't get anything. There is a REALLY important part in the ToS that stops a lot of legal action from being taken in this game. And that part is the part that says none of this stuff ever belonged to us in the first place. Evony isn't being ripped off, it did not cost them anything to give out those vestas... not that that even matters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alliendre View Post
    Personal attacks in game or posts on forums are considered legal threats and can be reported to any police force. Chat logs and phone records can be used as evidence in a court case. Bullying and harassment on line is illegal. The perpetrator need to be dealt with and removed from our community. The attempt to hack my own FB account (I'm assuming by the same person or group) HAS been reported to the police and is under investigation.
    If he threatened your life, or injury to your person then I suggest you report that threat to the authorities. What he did is not a threat, nor is it an attack. Your reaching extremely hard. I already conceded that a case for harassment could be made. But you'd better find the right judge.

    The fact that someone attempted to hack your facebook account has nothing to do with this. How do you even know someone tried to hack it? Furthermore, on what basis can you even assume the alleged hacker was even the same person? If I rob you and call you ugly, you can have me arrested for robbing you. But they won't tack on extra time for calling you ugly. (Unless you could prove I robbed you because you were ugly, but that's a hate crime thing, those laws don't make much sense.)

    If the police finish the investigation of your facebooks alleged hacking (by the way, those cops hate you for making them do such a stupid thing) and they charge the culprit for whatever nonsense crime that would be, and you came to them and said "oh, by the way, he bought some coins on evony and recalled them and he got a free vesta", not only would they not know what the h*ll your talking about, they would probably laugh in your face.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alliendre View Post
    What do I ask of Evony to fix this? Perhaps a fix could be to mask the Facebook ID numbers, similar to credit cards where only the last four digits are displayed. A change could be made to the payments system where a verification system such as those used in other games such as WoW could be used to validate the payment, or a code sent via txt or email to verify the payment.
    I wasn't asking what they should do TO fix it, I was asking what they should do aside from fixing it.

    And just noting, if you find me annoying, just know this... If you decide to force the police to press nonsensical charges (they won't), the defendant will have a lawyer. I am not a lawyer, I just know how to read.

    IF, and that's a HUUUUUGE IF, by some miracle of god you can get the law to ignore the fact that none of these things belong to you, you've got yourself a nice civil suit for mental anguish... I guess... but not really.
    Last edited by cushseth; 08-06-2014 at 05:18 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prodigy the 5 View Post
    cush has a point... and he is right
    Ya.

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    Why is the forum continuously deleting my posts? This was posted yesterday and by some form of miracle just cant be found now.
    Well Malicious is at it again on CA1, another account accessed, purchased coins and now I'm sure will be recalled.
    Evony wake the hell up here! NUMEROUS tickets filed my different people regarding this player!
    http://gyazo.com/a7392386d30ff946851d44c79b35376d

    He has now put all his accounts around his 16 in Holiday (which is his perogative) but Im sure will use some of those account mails to purchase coins on other people's account and he wont mind if they get banned as well cos then no one can cap around his 16.

    Evony your customer service and technical support is severely lacking. We have also filed complaint with facebook. Maybe they will smarten up enough to drop your company from their system!

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    You would have thought rather than just delete posts and bury their heads in the sand they might actually act to solve the problem.
    While evony ban accounts without communicating with its players the situation will not resolve itself and the customer support is non existant they just delete the tickets rather than respond as well. I agree the only option left to attempt to get this matter resolved ourselves is to contact facebook and get them to disconnect with evony since this is where the loop hole exists.
    At the present rate there will be no age2 come Christmas if its this easy to get accounts banned.

    Just so you know i have contacted facebook abouts evony's behaviour and sent a screenshot of this page so if you just delete the posts again they will still have the evidence concerning your reactions to complaints on this forum and via Cs tickets.
    Last edited by T1NCA; 08-16-2014 at 01:29 PM.

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    Seems yet another payment made on an acct by the exact same Hotmail acct that purchased then recalled to get my acct banned! WAKE UP EVONY!

    When I logged this morning I see its out of alliance
    I queried the payment and this is what I got from Evony

    this was the paypal acc mcordewener@hotmail.com
    and the IP Address Order IP: 86.91.228.250
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    I'm still waiting to hear from Evony if I can get a copy of the receipt of the amount that was purchased on my account and recalled 5 mins later. They keep closing my support tickets without giving me any answer. And despite paying up, they can't give me any guarantee that my account will be fine. I have to wait three days while they investigate the issue. Investigate what??? Tell me who hacked me and ban them. Like permanently. Preferably with a brick thru the head after the continual abuse. Twice they have attempted to hack my Facebook, I've had a Denial of Service and had to call my IP who managed to trace something back to the Netherlands ... funny that mcordewener is from the Netherlands, but of course he and his host deny any responsibility. I've also had my Twitter password changed, again this was traced back to the Netherlands. To top that off, some scumbag went through my friends list on Facebook and sent my daughter who is going through an emotional break up a message. Again Mr Cordewener and his host deny any knowledge of such events. I have had threats on line in WC from these guys who have been reported to Evony countless times. I have had a message from another member of the same alliance who admits they hacked on their previous server NA20 and were proud of it. And yet, nothing is done to protect players either online or in real life. What the heck can we do? And yes, I have reported the activity to the police, who can do nothing except make a note of it on file.

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