Alts

[iamme]

In all seriousness when are people going to stop blaming evony and start running less alts. We can call the servers crappy and the game broken all we want but it won't fix the problem at hand. Its the same ten people who start hundreds of accounts to sell to players. The players continue to fuel the sales and complain when the server lags. I made it my job to crush most the sellers yet there are still some running accounts to sell respurces. When are people going to stop buying from them so the game can return to normal

[Dr Perv]

In all seriousness when are people going to stop blaming evony and start running less alts. We can call the servers crappy and the game broken all we want but it won't fix the problem at hand. Its the same ten people who start hundreds of accounts to sell to players. The players continue to fuel the sales and complain when the server lags. I made it my job to crush most the sellers yet there are still some running accounts to sell respurces. When are people going to stop buying from them so the game can return to normal

Supply and Demand.
People are to lazy to build accounts up themselves, or cap things themselves.
Therefor, they pay the money it'd cost them to do the task, to someone else to do it for them.
For instance, $150 for a top attk/ldr HH. You'd have to coin a good $1k just to get your acct ready for HHs night of a server, where as you can pay a seller $100-250 to get it for you (i'm not 100% sure on prices but that sounds about right)
Or HCs for instant. Leaves you with more troops to defend it with, and not the hassle of breaking it.

[ssfgrgawer]

lets for a moment pretend that im allowed to let this thread fly under the radar cause not one single person reads the forums actively enough to care, and ill answer.

Evony make their money from what people spend on their accounts. This might be 1k or 30$ and everything in between, but it all ads up. Those players then make their money back selling the bits and pieces of their account so they have another 1k or whatever for the next server and any extra as profit. This has lead to players making hundreds of accounts in hope to spin high base helm heroes, mech battalions, ect ect ect for power building accounts. They then sell off the accounts they don't want as feeders from anywhere from 10$ a pop to 50$ a pop.

this system has been in place since the 160s and probably before (This was just when i came into contact with it) As more and more saw the possible profit signs more and more sellers started mass producing accounts on an industrial scale. Then you end up with servers as they are now, 10 players with 100 accounts each spamming world chat for the first two months of a server trying to offload goods to a flooded market, This drove prices down. Thus huge heros that would have cost you 400$ a few years ago, now cost less then 200$. Accounts that could have fetched thousands now are worth peanuts. This lead to more and more accounts being built to try and make the same money they used to. so instead of selling 1x main with 3 alts for 300$ they sell 10x mains and 30 alts for 400 total and get away with it because evony don't care enough about their game anymore to come back from doing anything about it. Its been too long and the game is too far gone to be brought back, And the fanbase no longer wants to play evony as the game, they want to play it as wall street and increase their funds instead.

This is partly the fault of evony for leaving it so long before doing anything about it, but its the players own faults too for turning the game into a sales pitch instead of a war game. Evony haven't helped matters by basically forgetting age one and two exists and completely ignoring them, even to the point where we had over 4 months without a promotion of any sort, Olny after they brought promos back did they see people would still spend for them, and as such we have had many since then. Evony has realised somewhere along the lines that they cant fix the game without banning their entire player base. No one will go back to 2009/2010 game play because the game has moved beyond that point. The player base has narrowed significantly from the game that once proudly stated it had 10 million accounts. Now it probably has 200 million accounts, problem is they are all owned by the same million players.

the only ones who can stop the lag on servers is the individual players. Drop 50% of your accounts and have everyone in your alliance do the same. I guarantee you will see a difference. Problem is you reds wont do the same and will take the chance to move into your farming zones and the plan goes to hell as your foes double their alts and income and the lag goes back to maximum again.

Evony became an arms race years ago. he or she who has the most is the safest. when it takes 10 people three hours to tear down your main city and lose every decent hero they have to do it, your fairly safe from harm.

[iamme]

There used to be a small contingency doing this but it has now turned full scale to the point where make alts. Run them and just sell resources. So the person is running 200 alts lagging up the server and making profit. These people have no main to speak of. Just sell resources every day for 30-50 dollars. The game isn't even about hoarding troops because it seems the most talented players have quit and moved onto new games but its gotten to the point where just logging or maintenance is ip to 10 tries and 30-60 minutes. Its pure greed no one needs 1 tril resources with a scout hero and i have intentionally hunted them down. But you can't beat auto building alts my the hundreds. I've come to live with my lag. Attack when its tolerable and hope my account isn't shut out and farmed mercilessly by someone left on server

[novabomb]

honestly if you knew who owns Evony, You'd understand that they never gave a **** about their players. They pulled a nice stole game fake company on people then run off with profits. Once cost of keeping the servers past income it will close. no doubt

For those who do not know Evony's owner (truely) its owned by Ucool Aka chinese underground unnamed company. Bring up a old lawsuit course but after research myself i found Ucool is a shell company purely. They get sued everytime they release a new game. EVERY TIME


Just stop playing this game lol dam

Oh and please dispute evony on paypal for your money back (within 45 days of payment or contact your bank/paypal)

[Mutt8th]

Bump* ...I am back after a while away from Evony. Main reason was the cost added to praying. Just another weapon for big money player. I think as it was was not good. Bot could defend for ever. But the change was way to much the other way. ( my view point ). Also the game became more tilted towards "automatic style alliances" and away from "human alliances".

Also I have no problem with bots being used. It is just part of the evolving development of the evony game.

I have little worries about the big player making multi accts and heroes to sell. These items are been re-cycled within the ( server ) game. I do have a problem with the 100s if not 1000s of small non growing accts. The failure of Evony to adequately deal with this can not be dismissed by them. Seems having a limit of 5 accts per IP address is Evony solution. This is pointless. So many ways to beat this, avoid this. This again just hinders the smaller player maybe with 5 10 accts. Just trying to keep up with modern Evony demands. I think a better solution needs to be found. Possibly just remove these non growing accts. eg: any acct under 5k that has no prestige growth after 5 days; remove it for non playing: ..; 10k removed after 10 days: ..; 20k removed after 15 days etc .....

Also Evony deleted NPC forts on mass is helping the multi mini acct to grow. One might think Evony wants this due to their lack of action against it. Removing these non growing accts could just replace npc fort deletion maybe... or keep open flats at a min of 1% .."automated"...

just some thoughts.

Mutt.

[cypher1968]

There should be a lawsuit against Evony, at what point does that failure to enforce its own rules constitute negligence, fraud and misrepresentation?