Ok, i have done this the hard way. I have sent all my troops to wipe out an pc fortifications.

Next I have sent several waves..no, correction, many waves of troops to bring down loyalty.

Including 1 wave of scouts which incidentally got killed. (So yeah, scout scamming no longer works to confirm with everyone out there). I also sent many waves of cav and pikes and archers and ballatis.

BUT the problem is this. Once the loyalty reached 15 and public grievances reach 1, it just keeps staying there no matter how many waves i sent. The troops inside just won't come out to fight. So I am forced to sent many many more waves. Heck, I have been at this for the last 3 hours and STILL, the loyalty is at 15 and grievances at 1. Now, this game has got its frustration but this has to be one of the worst. If u want to change the rules here and there...FINE, but at least let us know wat it takes to achieve something in this game. At least let me know how to conquer a damn bloody city!!!

I am on the verge of walking away from this game. It is so full of changes and uncertainty of wat u need to do to win. WTF..