What exactly is reality?

[DieForelle]

What if you have a false recollection of a fallse memory? Perhaps something you're "forgotten", but your parents or others inforced it in you so much that you think you actually remembered the event?

[King Alboin]

Ok i see your point when quoting some one, makes sense, i may not remember all the time to not do it but will keep it in practice.

But the part about memories. see i think that even to remember something that was at one point in time reality, at the point of the ending of that particular reality line illusion takes over. Yes maybe it is a part of reality, for when one is in the state of memoring he/she is in reality, however the memory, i argue, is not real at all. We feel its effects perhaps emotionally, but dont feel the realness, the warmth, the newness.

In my opinion reality is here and now, the experiencing of now.

~Tilde, got to remember that, note to self: Tilde~

[Avarwen]

What if you have a false recollection of a fallse memory? Perhaps something you're "forgotten", but your parents or others inforced it in you so much that you think you actually remembered the event?

"Many people mistake their imagination for their memory."

Honestly I don't know. o.O I really don't have views on the seperation of the imagination from reality to that extent. I was just responding before because saying memories weren't part of reality didn't make sense to me.

I thinki (possibly-- my headache is making this difficult, so I may disagree with this later) if someone has forced a memory on you that wasn't a real memory then it's become part of reality because your parents had to revolve some extent of their lives around forcing that memory on you, and then you would've adjusted your life in accordance to receiving this memory.

I don't really think you can seperate illusions from reality that simply. They're connected to each other because without reality illusions couldn't exist. Or maybe it's the opposite to some people depending on their views. o.O

[Avarwen]

Ok i see your point when quoting some one, makes sense, i may not remember all the time to not do it but will keep it in practice.

But the part about memories. see i think that even to remember something that was at one point in time reality, at the point of the ending of that particular reality line illusion takes over. Yes maybe it is a part of reality, for when one is in the state of memoring he/she is in reality, however the memory, i argue, is not real at all. We feel its effects perhaps emotionally, but dont feel the realness, the warmth, the newness.

In my opinion reality is here and now, the experiencing of now.

~Tilde, got to remember that, note to self: Tilde~

Lol well you don't have to i was just saying.

And yea I know where you're coming from. Your side makes more sense now you've explained it a bit more fully. Idk if I agree with it, but I know what you're saying.

[DieForelle]

Or is an illusion also reality? Is reality an umbrella composing of every existence, be it real or false, in the universe?

[Avarwen]

Aaaaah noo. Lol this is exactly what I said I wasn't gonna do.

I'll leave the arguing of reality to you guys.

[King Alboin]

"Cool, i appreciate that, cuz seriously this subject has tied humans minds up for eons and there reallly does not seem to be any definative answer."

there is an old saying by the greatest being ever to walk this earth and i quote.

"You think there is a God, the demons know and tremble."

So i say the best way to find out is to wait and see cuzz God knows.

[DieForelle]

problem is, how do you find out by waiting? You won't achieve anything if you don't try

[Avarwen]

Well technically time will tell everything. But if there isn't a god and you die and there's no afterlife then technically you found out, but it was useless because you're now in nonexistance.

[chinothepony]

Well no... Like I said, Memories are part of reality because they are a recollection of something that actually happened. Dreams or daydreams or whatever you wish to call our imaginings of ourselves in positions we have never been in-- awake or asleep-- would be illusion.

That is where I differ from you. I believe that dreams, daydreams, and such are truely reality. I think that is us practicing what we can do in the next world when we pass on in this life. The reality is in fact illuision. Memories are just fragments of that reality.