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    I understand perfectly well that the changes Evony is making are angering people. Some of you even have valid complaints- the people who spent money on the game and because of recent changes have seen the value of that money dissipate. The majority of you, however, need to learn to roll with the punches.

    Evony is an online game. I've played my share of online games. Puzzle Pirates and Runescape are a couple of examples. Any online game requires money in the long run to be able to sustain itself. This money is made through any combination of three possible media. The first is advertisements. Free players on Runescape are subject to large amounts of advertisements, while members see next to none. This game is more like puzzle pirates in that it opens an advert-free window from which you play your game. So there goes one method of profit. The next two methods of profit come from players. One method comes from the sustaining of profit influx from veteran players (which nobody posting on this forum or playing this game is). The second method comes from drawing in new players to form a larger player base from which to draw.

    Runescape has been around for nearly 6 years now. That game has veteran players. Puzzle Pirates is over 3 years old. That game has veteran players. I've never played world of warcraft, but veteran players exist there too. This game has been released since... what? April? Clearly none of you have EVER been in the world of industry if you're complaining this much. No project worthwhile has ever been put together in a couple months. This is a new idea requiring ingenuity and logic that has never before been applied. These problems have never been solved before. Just be glad they're letting you play their game and input in its completion! You people who keep griping about how they're screwing over your uber-massive armies... the game has changed! Deal with it! This is not your pet project. This is not your job. This is not your vision. This is an online game where there are two participants- the developers and the players. The developers have to think about their bottom line and very existence. I've just begun playing within the last couple weeks, and I love it! This is a superb game with a few problems, which will be fixed in time. Any release or patch will invariably make people mad and have some kind of negative fallout which may cause them to quit. Those people don't matter. The people who matter are the ones who see it through to where it matches the developers' vision. Those people- the ones who quit complaining about EVERYTHING the devs do and allow them to fix problems as they come will be the ones who enjoy the game. If it's so bad, then quit. That's all there is to it.

    People are right. The developers are screwing people over. But those people have to be made unhappy so that the game can improve. Maybe this is a game that is only meant to be played for 3 months. Perhaps that is where the developers want to be. Maybe they want it to be hard to find medals. Maybe an army of 100k and a food consumption of 1.8 million is supposed to be enormous and unsustainable. Who can say? My advice to people is to do the best they can with the way things go. If you're worried about sustaining your army, then let them die and start anew applying new strategies. If you're bored because you can't attack players or NPCs, quit. Go to a new server. Do anything but gripe and complain because the developers are doing their job.

    And please don't patronize me by stating that your happiness is the developers' job. That's bull, and you should all know it. The devs' job is to bring in new players just as much as keeping old ones. And at this point, there are no old ones. Thus, the devs need to bring in new players. They've opened up how many servers now? Their strategy is working. This game is growing and expanding fast. Players on server 1 have TONS of medals, HUGE armies, and INCREDIBLE quantities of resources that players now (with patches, updates, etc) would never be able to attain. So I'm sorry, people in server 1, but you were the guinea pigs. Is that fair? Maybe not. But you were. The game is now moving closer to where it needs to be, and if the way you played has fallen to the wayside, then that's just how it goes. Devs need to consider servers 1-3, but there are 30 more servers out there that deserve just as much attention. Those players are just as important to the survival of the game as you are, and if this game is to survive and evolve, then it will have to be suited towards a long-term equilibrium and not towards solving the problems of yesterday. The devs need to find a way for everything to come together for server 20, not server 1. They're working on the endgame for players who are just starting. Not players who are already there.

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    this wall of text will certainly change everyones opinion despite the fact they only read the first sentence or in my case none of it at all before they post

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    God forbid I play established online games.

    And Nesterus, take a leaf from Mark Twain. "Those who can read and don't are no better off than those who can't."
    And if that doesn't sink in, "Better to keep your mouth shut and let everyone think you're ignorant than to open it and remove all doubt."
    Last edited by deer717; 06-18-2009 at 03:28 PM.

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    God forbid Evony establishes online game play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deer717 View Post
    "Better to keep your mouth shut and let everyone think you're ignorant than to open it and remove all doubt."
    While you were looking up clever quotes did you come across one where the pot was calling the kettle black?

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    What about those who live in glass houses should not throw stones

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesterus View Post
    While you were looking up clever quotes did you come across one where the pot was calling the kettle black?
    Ok that sounded totally racist -_-...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoingBo1ng View Post
    Ok that sounded totally racist -_-...
    Unless you tell people, or post a picture of yourself, then race doesn't exist on the forums.

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    albeit very old and over-used phrase by those with degree in message board speak. Used in more frivolous applications then the current your mom jokes.

    "You're stupid!"
    "Pot calling kettle black!"
    "You're a moron, why do you complain so much?:
    "Pot calling kettle black!"
    "I want a sandwich..."
    "Pot calling kettle black!"
    "Evony is--"
    "Shuddap, pot calling kettle black!"
    Last edited by chinothepony; 06-19-2009 at 01:37 PM.

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    From my experience, most pots are bronze and most kettles are aluminum...

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