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Thread: Hate to beat a dead horse but wtf devs? Why even allow us to attack other players?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosemary View Post
    I still don't understand why you expected to take a city with just archers. It is common sense.
    They don't. The plan was to whittle away at the enemy ranged units.

    It is currently impossible to send anything, save perhaps tens of thousands of catapults, that will even get a single shot off at an enemy with 18k ATs, 200k archers, and 50k ballista, put people still try at times.

    Army configuration has no barring on the issue. No melee combination will get into attack range. It is just flatly impossible. Even the tens of thousands of catapults is just a guess, as no one is going to send an army that takes weeks or months to make, when it is only going to at the very most get one shot off at the enemy archers.

    Even if it kills 100k, thats weeks or months of building to kill what takes a day to replace. Besides, anyone in a decent alliance can get someone to reinforce them if two or three waves of 50k catapults knocks down their garrison.

    And then you are back to square one. Scratch that, you would have to replace your losses to be at square one. You are square one minus several thousand hours of build time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lara Croft View Post
    All the new servers are on glass cieling caps. No more unlimited resources to feed plunder driven armies. No more unlimited medals that get you 10 cities in 2 weeks.

    All the arguments, this kills the noob, go to a new server, be a noob. You are wrong. You don't get killed by this. You can have walls to 7, decent Archery and a few thousand towers by the time Beginner wears off. You will be strong enough to make it hurt if anyone hits you. None of the players on the new servers have 9 cities, they didnt get the medals. They wont have 50,000 archers. They can't feed them.

    It's remarkable how so many are asked to just let it all go. It's just a game, they are just fake cities but what is the real argument here? Why do I have to start over? Why did I have to give up my cities and do it all again? Why did so many in a system that made it impossible to hang on to that work? Why did the game lose half it's potential base? You want to keep what they werent allowed to keep. Why? Feel that epiphany working its way into the back off your mind?

    The game was broke. You know it, I know it, the devs knew it. Perfect answer? No. A patch. Thats why they are called patches.


    You make a lot of firm declarations in that post. In general its good to know what you are talking about before doing so however.





    Server14 is about 14 days old, I've only been play 10, NO ONE has 50k archers? I have 50k archers in just one of my towns. They didn't change anything, just made it more annoying. I can still crush any noobs town no matter what they do in BP. No one has 10 towns? Plenty of people are almost there already. I'd have more but honestly I dont want to spend the time managing all those cities. I'm going to take a lvl 10 npc town, then I'll use it to take other peoples cities as they build them, so I don't have to bother. Before you say anything I will reiterate once again

    I've spent $0.00 on this game, and that's the most I ever will. I don't even play that much, a couple hours a day, mostly spent queuing stuff and chatting to my alliance mates.

    The game being "broke" is a matter of opinion. The game has a ton of problems, and barbarian farming is one of them, but its really not the one that needs to be focused on right now. Nor is boohoo crybabies defenses (except maybe to nerf them), it's in making some content for this game. THEN maybe noobs wont be crushed under foot.
    Last edited by pokey; 06-23-2009 at 03:09 AM.

  3. #93

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    Everyone is so eager to prove me wrong for no other reason than to say they did it.

    Lets return to pointless defence then. In a few weeks, there will be no problem with unbreakable defence. Apply a teleporter, scroll through each state. They are empty. In a few weeks, the moaning and belly aching won't be unbreakable defence, it will be nobody to attack. By the design you seem to think is the destiny of Evony, it's not that people emo quit. The totem pole system requires that they leave any given server. There is only room on any given server for 5% of the people who start.

    I still don't understand your point here. Doomed on the right, doomed on the left. The problem is, we are both right. Your argument buys a few more weeks of servers that aren't lifeless. My argument allows for active logins but removes the pervasive PvP.

    And it all still doesnt answer the one critical question. If the game is doomed to fail because end game is abrupt and met in 2 weeks, they have removed all the goals fro your type of player, why are you still here?

    I'm here because now I can build and not have it crushed by bullies. Why are you still here? I don't sugggest you leave, I just ask the why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lara croft View Post
    everyone is so eager to prove me wrong for no other reason than to say they did it.

    Lets return to pointless defence then. In a few weeks, there will be no problem with unbreakable defence. Apply a teleporter, scroll through each state. They are empty. In a few weeks, the moaning and belly aching won't be unbreakable defence, it will be nobody to attack. By the design you seem to think is the destiny of evony, it's not that people emo quit. The totem pole system requires that they leave any given server. There is only room on any given server for 5% of the people who start.

    I still don't understand your point here. Doomed on the right, doomed on the left. The problem is, we are both right. Your argument buys a few more weeks of servers that aren't lifeless. My argument allows for active logins but removes the pervasive pvp.

    And it all still doesnt answer the one critical question. If the game is doomed to fail because end game is abrupt and met in 2 weeks, they have removed all the goals fro your type of player, why are you still here?

    I'm here because now i can build and not have it crushed by bullies. Why are you still here? I don't sugggest you leave, i just ask the why?
    ffs dude you're missing the whole point of the whole thread

    reading comprehension grade 3

    take it

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    Quote Originally Posted by NemoInTheWoods View Post
    ffs dude you're missing the whole point of the whole thread

    reading comprehension grade 3

    take it
    So condense it for me then, genious.
    What's the point?

    Enlighten an uneducated minion such as myself.

    Evony has no end game, that's the point?

    Evony has an endgame. You got there. Gratz, give the man a cookie. Is it any different in 5000 other games? Sitting on the safe zone in a pvp area in any other game, being sniped by cloaked, stealthed range capped characters the milisecond you step off? Evony has a magic wand? They can fix an online plague that has been around for over 10 years? Don't play online games. They have no end game. What is the point here, pray tell?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lara Croft View Post
    So condense it for me then, genious.
    What's the point?

    Enlighten an uneducated minion such as myself.

    Evony has no end game, that's the point?

    Evony has an endgame. You got there. Gratz, give the man a cookie. Is it any different in 5000 other games? Sitting on the safe zone in a pvp area in any other game, being sniped by cloaked, stealthed range capped characters the milisecond you step off? Evony has a magic wand? They can fix an online plague that has been around for over 10 years? Don't play online games. They have no end game. What is the point here, pray tell?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NemoInTheWoods View Post

    I don't agree, so I am trolling. First I was stupid, couldn't read etc, etc and now I am a troll. And you still haven't made a point.

    Could this be another whine fest because you assume Dev and management changed the mechanics on the exclusive notion of carebear whining? Could it be you don't know what you are talking about? That Dev and management saw a dead end road and tried to steer around it?

    Could it be, you should **** if you can't debate without slinging insults and trying to villify the opposition? There are no I-win buttons here either. Sucks dont it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokey View Post
    Server14 is about 14 days old, I've only been play 10, NO ONE has 50k archers? I have 50k archers in just one of my towns. They didn't change anything, just made it more annoying... No one has 10 towns? Plenty of people are almost there already. I'd have more but honestly I dont want to spend the time managing all those cities.... Before you say anything I will reiterate once again

    I've spent $0.00 on this game, and that's the most I ever will. I don't even play that much, a couple hours a day, mostly spent queuing stuff and chatting to my alliance mates.
    LOL.

    Pokey, it's statements like that that make some of the Noobs in this game mad. "How can he do that well when I've spent so much more time and money and have nowhere near that much to show for it? He must be cheating. Find out what he's doing and ban it."

    The answer is simple: learn to play the frickin' game.

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    That was a horrible attack. Horrible. The attacker was completely outmatched on every level. Not only did the defender get a free shot off, he also got another round due to range on his ATs. By the time the attackers archers were in range, they were more than half dead.

    The send archers and nothing else trick doesn't work like it used to anymore. You need to send support troops/cannon fodder, but even then, the attacker was horribly outmatched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvNoob View Post
    LOL.

    Pokey, it's statements like that that make some of the Noobs in this game mad. "How can he do that well when I've spent so much more time and money and have nowhere near that much to show for it? He must be cheating. Find out what he's doing and ban it."

    The answer is simple: learn to play the frickin' game.
    So you created a question nobody asked and answered it for yourself.
    Note the multiple attacks on the screenshot. NPC or Player?

    I've never heard 'noob' complain about how so and so can make 10 cities in 2 hrs and be all uber and pwn like. I hear alot of why is it that I am being told I cant be here because someone else feels obligated to force me to be thier entertainment by pounding on me day and night when it's conclusive fast there is nothing I can do about it.

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