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Thread: Hate to beat a dead horse but wtf devs? Why even allow us to attack other players?

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    All the new servers are on glass cieling caps. No more unlimited resources to feed plunder driven armies. No more unlimited medals that get you 10 cities in 2 weeks.

    All the arguments, this kills the noob, go to a new server, be a noob. You are wrong. You don't get killed by this. You can have walls to 7, decent Archery and a few thousand towers by the time Beginner wears off. You will be strong enough to make it hurt if anyone hits you. None of the players on the new servers have 9 cities, they didnt get the medals. They wont have 50,000 archers. They can't feed them.

    It's remarkable how so many are asked to just let it all go. It's just a game, they are just fake cities but what is the real argument here? Why do I have to start over? Why did I have to give up my cities and do it all again? Why did so many in a system that made it impossible to hang on to that work? Why did the game lose half it's potential base? You want to keep what they werent allowed to keep. Why? Feel that epiphany working its way into the back off your mind?

    The game was broke. You know it, I know it, the devs knew it. Perfect answer? No. A patch. Thats why they are called patches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lara Croft View Post
    All the new servers are on glass cieling caps. No more unlimited resources to feed plunder driven armies. No more unlimited medals that get you 10 cities in 2 weeks.

    All the arguments, this kills the noob, go to a new server, be a noob. You are wrong. You don't get killed by this. You can have walls to 7, decent Archery and a few thousand towers by the time Beginner wears off. You will be strong enough to make it hurt if anyone hits you. None of the players on the new servers have 9 cities, they didnt get the medals. They wont have 50,000 archers. They can't feed them.

    It's remarkable how so many are asked to just let it all go. It's just a game, they are just fake cities but what is the real argument here? Why do I have to start over? Why did I have to give up my cities and do it all again? Why did so many in a system that made it impossible to hang on to that work? Why did the game lose half it's potential base? You want to keep what they werent allowed to keep. Why? Feel that epiphany working its way into the back off your mind?

    The game was broke. You know it, I know it, the devs knew it. Perfect answer? No. A patch. Thats why they are called patches.

    you're missing the point entirely lara... go back to school and study reading comprehension. once you have a 3rd grade education on the subject, come back, read the thread again, THEN post an educated reply. until then you're just spouting gibberish that's completely off topic to this entire thread.

    there is no end game to evony. once all researches are done and you conquered level 10 barb towns there's simply nothing else to do. hence the question why even allow us to attack other players since it's so easy to defend against powerful attacks with minimal losses.

    please tell me, what else is there to do? get online and chat and giggle as you screw over the market because you don't care about gold or resources?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NemoInTheWoods View Post
    you're missing the point entirely lara... go back to school and study reading comprehension. once you have a 3rd grade education on the subject, come back, read the thread again, THEN post an educated reply. until then you're just spouting gibberish that's completely off topic to this entire thread.
    /Seconded.

    Lara, the short bus is here to take you to school!

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    I agree with the OP, if the devs want to protect the new players like me, the devs should really look into expanding the game for the old timers while concentrating on the other critical aspects of the game.

    Aspects like game balance, server lagging, and etc and etc.

    Today's big hullaballo about prestige is not even worth a bother since both prestige and honor means nothing but 1s and 0s until it can incorporated and coded as something useful in game other than for showing off.

    There are so many ideas in the Great Minds forum, some of them good, some of the excellent, some of them downright ingenious, the devs should really be reading them thoroughly and sending PMs or mails to the proposers to clarify, work out and code those ideas in.

    G
    Failure is not an option - Gene Kranz

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    Quote Originally Posted by NemoInTheWoods View Post
    you're missing the point entirely lara... go back to school and study reading comprehension. once you have a 3rd grade education on the subject, come back, read the thread again, THEN post an educated reply. until then you're just spouting gibberish that's completely off topic to this entire thread.

    there is no end game to evony. once all researches are done and you conquered level 10 barb towns there's simply nothing else to do. hence the question why even allow us to attack other players since it's so easy to defend against powerful attacks with minimal losses.

    please tell me, what else is there to do? get online and chat and giggle as you screw over the market because you don't care about gold or resources?

    Says I am making sense and you simply don't want to accept it.
    What's next? I know you are but what am I?

    a month ago, you could ask, why bother having defence? 90K Archer zerg and full Lv. 10 walls go to dust. Funny how none of the people with the armies had much to complain about there. If it's an army game, why have cities at all? Why not just remove cities, we all work for our respective state monarchy's and we just lease off them? Recall the promotion system? It's a monarchy to the state you are in, granting you titles.

    We can just fabricate our armies, farm resource from an NPC map and flag battle points. The fact that you can't find anything else to do because you refuse to give up your easy buttons from a pre patch version of the game doesn't mean the devs did the wrong thing. Sorry, you are wrong and all the grade 2 insults in the world won't change that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvNoob View Post
    /Seconded.

    Lara, the short bus is here to take you to school!

    No, I see the point he and others are making. It's one sided and reactionary.

    Gimme back my I-win button. I don't want to play a building game. Cities are here to destroy.

    How, what??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lara Croft View Post
    All the new servers are on glass cieling caps. No more unlimited resources to feed plunder driven armies. No more unlimited medals that get you 10 cities in 2 weeks.
    This is one of those times I do not mean to be insulting, but I have to say you have no idea what you are talking about.

    I have in fact started over on a new server. That server is server 11.

    My name there is Kassikas, just like here and server 3, so feel free to check.

    I am in the top 50 for prestige (as if that matters) And I have a healthy chunk of honor.

    I have captured three of my five cities, and that doesn't count the ones I have abandoned.

    Two of the cities I have captured used truce to try and avoid it, so I didn't take them from inactive.

    The one I took today, I specifically targeted because it was a level 10 TH, and I didn't want to waste a mich script on getting the General rank.

    I have well over 50k archers, as well as many other troops.

    My army already eats over a million food.

    NPC farming with ballista is still quite viable, but I have chosen not to do so. One of the main reasons is because of arguments like this one made by carebears who haven't experimented with the current battle mechanics.

    And finally, I specifically moved to this new server because it would be possible to PvP, where as on previous servers it was not.

    Here is a screen shot of my army. There are 50k archers on the attack from my newly captured city. On top of that there are 28k archers. Total troop levels in my new stage alone are:

    http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4906/proofnwy.png

    500 workers.
    600 sword.
    2200 horse.
    84000 warriors.
    9400 pike.
    83000 archer.

    From the screen shot you can verify all but the 64k warriors and 5k archers in the other army I am sending. The idea that I can not feed 50k archers is silly. Heck, when I cap my level 10, which should be within the week, that city alone will be able to feed 125k archers with some foot thrown in.

    The wall defense buff has made it far easier for me to attack newbies and carebears. The only people I can not attack is serious aggressive players, because most of them have armies similar or bigger then my own.

    The Wall patch hurts newbies and carebears, it does not help them. Alls it has done is make aggressive players more blood thirsty, and made their only viable targets the soft and fat carebear cities who think feeding 50k archers is impossible.

    battle11.evony.com/default.html?logfile/a8/f9/3a/c4/a8f93ac4f8bab33f687ec75126594ab5.xml

    That report proves I got the warriors to.
    Last edited by kassikas; 06-22-2009 at 11:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lara Croft
    Gimme an I-win button. I don't want my village to be able to be attacked. I want to be invincible. Cities are here to look pretty. I can't accept the fact that I can lose in this game.
    This isn't the happy fun time village builder with care bears and rainbows.

    This is a war game.

    If you cant accept the fact that you can actually lose in this game then THIS IS NOT THE GAME FOR YOU!

    The entire point of this game is to be able to attack and conquer other people.

    Should it be super easy to do? No, absolutely not and no one here is asking for that. Should it be possible to do? yes and that's where the problem is. It's not possible to take down towns with lvl 10 walls and decent defenders.


    So if you want to build a city that cant be destroyed go play sim city and be sure to turn off disasters.
    Again i state this is clearly not the type of game for you so stop trying to ruin it for those of us that like these kind of war games.
    Last edited by NegativeZero; 06-23-2009 at 02:10 AM.
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    I still don't understand why you expected to take a city with just archers. It is common sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosemary View Post
    I still don't understand why you expected to take a city with just archers. It is common sense.
    I still don't understand how you passed 3rd grade reading.

    No one expected this wave of archers to kill the town all on their own.


    If you had actually bothered to read ANY of the OPs first post you would have seen him say this.

    The problem is not that the archers last but rather the HUGELY disproportionate losses of the attacker vs. the defender.
    Not a single one of the defenders archers or towers was killed. NOT ONE.

    They had several other waves that were scheduled to hit shortly after the first with ballistas and other troops they were all recalled because they would have all met the same fate.
    Last edited by NegativeZero; 06-23-2009 at 02:23 AM.
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