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    Dear Evony Team,

    Since it is apparently possible to do things within the game which are considered "exploits" and "crime" it would be really helpful if you could tell us which of the following behaviors are ok, and which are going to be retroactively punished, so that we may plan accordingly.

    I've done some of these but not others, but hey, why not ask?


    How about:

    1) building 20 level 10 NPCs around your cities and relentlessly attacking them night and day, gaining 500 prestige per attack.

    2) using a level 250+ attack hero as mayor to build archers super quickly. How about moving that hero from town to town, so that you can build 40k archers per hour?

    3) building towns with 18 or more barracks?

    4) inviting an unalligned player into your alliance to determine whether or not they're online?

    5) learning an adversaries timezone so that you can attack them when they're sleeping?

    6) launching an attack at 2am?

    7) launching a major attack against a well armed opponent, then hitting the Evony server with a DoS (denial of service) attack so that they can't get online to do anything about it?

    8) filling a town with 300M gold and no defenses, then reinforcing just before someone tries to take it?

    9) taking advantage of being zapped to 0 prestige to rename your flag to "Flag" and wipe out big players from little attack cities which are indistinguishable from new players?

    10) just using attack cities?

    11) creating barb cities?

    12) conquering level 10 NPCs?

    13) selling conquered level 10 NPCs to other players?

    14) filling your whole alliance with conquered level 10 NPCs?

    15) having players enter another alliance and spy on them?

    16) demanding tribute from smaller players in your alliance?

    17) barbing opponents cities?

    18) playing 10 hours per day? 15? 20?

    19) medal farming?

    20) manipulating the markets? (drive the price down with your excesses, then buy it back up with your reserved gold)?

    21) tearing down workshops and forges to build more barracks?

    22) attacking a player city or an NPC with warriors to take away wall defenses before a major attack?

    23) intentionally reducing horseback riding to get more out of your ballistae?

    24) having 100k ballistae?

    25) having an army which eats 20M food per hour?

    26) writing software to query the mapserver to determine where everyone is located?

    27) drawing a map by hand?

    28) repeatedly attacking NPCs to determine how to minimize losses?

    29) repeatedly attacking NPCs to determine how to maximize prestige?

    30) paring up with a player in another alliance to alternately attack each other and gain Honor?

    31) giving resources to a new player in your alliance?

    32) giving advice to a new player in your alliance?

    33) giving a hero to a new player (in your alliance, but they need to leave, you attack them with a losing force so they capture the hero)?

    34) repeatedly attacking NPCs to build up hero experience?

    35) wiping out every non-allied player within a 100 mile radius?

    36) creating an NPC on every flat within a 100 mile radius?

    37) trying to compete with other players who have higher prestige, by figuring out what they're doing and doing it too?

    38) attacking other players with much lower prestige?

    39) Having more than 1M prestige?

    40) Asking for clarification of the the rules of the game, and expecting that they not be changed?
    Last edited by WisdomSeeker; 06-22-2009 at 04:01 PM. Reason: Fix typos

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    that is a nice comprehensive list of why I dont play evony

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    guess ill just login tomorrow, take my free spin on the wheel, and log back out before i exploit anything.

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    although some of these are obviously just plain dumb questions [I wish you would take out the joking ones so that this post is taken seriously] a lot of these question have true merit and we do not have an answer as to if they are acceptable practices within the game or not.
    Last edited by NegativeZero; 06-22-2009 at 04:09 PM.
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    Actually, I can't really tell which ones are "dumb questions" as you call them. Thats part of the problem. Some of the things which I think should be legal weren't (like prestige farming) while others which I think should be illegal seem to be ok (like checking if people are online...)

    The problem is, that if its allowed by the client and server, then it should all be legal. But we've seen with the zapping of prestige for people who attacked NPCs with only 2k warriors that that is not the case.

    So if not all in game activity is legal, then you need to very carefully demarcate what is ok and what isn't.

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    Default A couple you forgot

    A few more:

    41) Collecting hate mail and forwarding it onto your alliance members for laughs?

    42) Spying on world chat to see which alliance members are traitors?

    43) Using up the useless speakers on world chat by sending inane and pointless comments?

    44) Building a city with Max level walls, defences and an army, randomly teleporting it and attacking every valley in site to provoke enemy assaults?

    45) Repeatedly taking and abandoning valleys to get honour/exp/medals?

    46) Naming conquered cities after who you took them from?

    47) Naming heroes after players you made teleport or quit?

    48) Keeping inactive players on your alliance roster just so you can store their high prestige and make your alliance look more powerful?

    49) Wait for nearby players to build up a decent city and attack it. Wait again until they are just back to where they were, and attack it again. Repeat and continue?

    50) Constantly attack every player within a 1 hr march of you so they can never become powerful enough to threaten you?

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    As far as I know from personal experience, you can still gain prestige if you win a battle with an npc (provided you lose some troops), which seems completely fair to me. I don't agree with sending troops when you know they can't win, just for some extra prestige.

    Also, I agree with the above post that some of your questions are ridiculous, and you won't be taken seriously with them in that list. So think about what you really want to get out of this thread.
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    51) using world chat to entice a great number of player to attack a single player.

    52) Not build catapults because thay are expensive and take far too long for what they are worth

    53) telling anybody else what you know to be true about how to get ahead on civony



    etc etc etc I don't want to blow any more secrets...

    The DEVs might try to ruin the game in some other way...

    WISDOM SEEKER HAS A VERY GOOD POINT. IF IT CAN BE DON'T WITHOUT A CHEAT CODE IN NORMAL PLAY, IT H A S TO BE OK or the game fun itself suffers.

    Don't or can't you people understand the logic and reasoning of that??

    Surely you can...

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    laxmidde5, tell me, which ones are ridiculous? I think they're all either legal gameplay or things that people are actually doing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WisdomSeeker View Post
    laxmidde5, tell me, which ones are ridiculous? I think they're all either legal gameplay or things that people are actually doing...
    These are some of the stupid questions with obvious answers that subtract from the seriousness of this thread:

    3) building towns with 18 or more barracks?

    6) launching an attack at 2am?

    7) launching a major attack against a well armed opponent, then hitting the Evony server with a DoS (denial of service) attack so that they can't get online to do anything about it?

    18) playing 10 hours per day? 15? 20?

    27) drawing a map by hand?

    32) giving advice to a new player in your alliance?

    Don't get me wrong I think you have some EXCELLENT and IMPORTANT points. That's why i want you to take out the jokes and really concentrate on some of the important questions being asked here.
    Last edited by NegativeZero; 06-22-2009 at 06:33 PM.
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