View Poll Results: What penalty should the small number of players who exploited receive?

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  • Prestige should be reset to 0.

    162 34.39%
  • There should be a penalty, but less severe. Remove extra Prestige and maybe a little more.

    72 15.29%
  • Only remove the Prestige gained through exploiting.

    134 28.45%
  • No penalty at all. Leave all the Prestige they gained.

    103 21.87%
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Thread: Prestige Reset Concerns

  1. #21

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    Well said.

    Karsh




    Quote Originally Posted by Eve L Vixxen View Post
    Well i for one, did not gain any prestige through the alleged 'warrior vs npc bug' and yet i was reset.

    Thankyou for replying to my first mail -
    You stated that i made 100k prestige in 4 days and that i need to prove how i did it. (i am awaiting a response from you with regards to my justification of this).
    Since being reset i have since made 24,470 prestige - even while i have spent most of my time here in the forums as well as being offline for a few hours.

    I feel that if i was reset for no apparent reason - there must be many other innocent people you have 'caught' in your blanket reset. I also gather (from the forums) that most people didn't realise it was an exploit - one person even explained how prestige is gained (your losses are greater than the losses of the opponent and thus you gain prestige even when you lose) and so is an aspect of the game, rather than a bug.

    I believe that if people are willing to sacrifice their troops in order to gain prestige, then that is the way they play the game. Others fight NPC's for resources - that is the way they choose to play. Some fight other players for honor - that is also their choice. I don't see why people are penalised for losing their troops the way they see fit. If they gained the troops through honest methods and not through some other bug - then it's all good.

    I also feel that if an bug has been discovered or brought to the attention of the devs, that a mass mail should be sent out, warning people that it exists and that if anyone is found to be using it 'from this time forward' the penalties will be harsh. That's the way it is in other games i play - seems to work for them.

    Given that so many innocent people have been penalised and that others unknowingly used the 'bug' (if you want to call it that) - i feel that prestige should be restored to all players.

    Had you made the 'bug' known to everyone and they still chose to use it - then a penalty should be applied - however as it wasn't thought of as a bug i have chosen to vote 'they didn't know any better'

  2. #22

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    Facts:

    I have sent thousands of attacks against lvl 1-7 npc cities.
    I have always sent warriors and transports.
    I have always sent more than a "suicide squad" of warriors(warriors are the most cost effective unit).
    I have always sent trans to bring back ALL the loot.
    I have never attacked a npc city above lvl 8.
    Every npc attack I have made was for the resources.
    Prestige was a by-product I had absolutely no control over.
    I have 700 attack reports saved to back this up.

    Now I am labeled a cheater/exploiter.

    I want my prestige back.


    Rohin
    KINGSMEN

  3. #23

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    We don't want to unfairly punish anyone. If this happened to you or an alliance mate, please have them appeal to me, if they haven't already. Make sure to include Lord Name and Server. Thanks.
    Didn't you say ""I have received a very large number of appeals. Because of this I am not able to respond to every appeal" earlier?

    I have never used this exploit, but still had my prestige reset. All I did was conquer two level 10 npc cities in the last week. I still have them please check my account. Lord Hawkman. Server 5.

  4. #24
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    i just love how its called an exploit (some people call it a cheat) when the game was clearly designed for it to happen...If something in the game is not meant to be, then why is it in the game...once again its not the players fault for poor game mechanics. In all honesty you should get rid of prestige altogether as it means absolutely nothing.
    Server 3
    Name: Kelevera
    Alliance: Vitalia

    *Pimps don't commit suicide*

  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by tranq View Post
    In all honesty this prestige nonsense will all be forgot about this time next week, it's like the nerfing of the NPC's, people ranting and raving about it, then it's all forgotten until something else pops up to take it's place. I still think the cheater's should be banned though, naming and shaming them would be a good idea, it's only 150 so shouldn't take up that much room. Cheers.
    once again there are no cheaters in this game, as it clearly states there are no cheats available!
    Server 3
    Name: Kelevera
    Alliance: Vitalia

    *Pimps don't commit suicide*

  6. #26
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    Default the real problem

    ok seriously guys the real problem is the logs and trebuchets
    they cost to much for what they do

    if you lower the cost then this would have never been able to happen

    you gain prestige based on loses vs loses

    so you warrior is cheap his log is expensive so you gain when you defeat it

    so if you take time test your units against each other you can avoid this problem

    my proposal is to make logs logs cheaper and slightly less affective since they are chaeper and things should balance out with the need to "punish" anyone

    this exploit was always here its just recently that people are getting rid of troops since they cant feed them and are afraid of a stealth pathc that will starve their armies ot death while they sleep

  7. #27

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    Ahhh, yet another fault on behalf of the Evony team. You know, It's funny how you guys do things like this. Blame it on players for your poor lack of programming and game creation skills? Just like the server bug that wiped out troops not long ago, yet I got none of mine back when you said everyone would be? I'm surprised I'm even still playing this game to be honest as I go no response to that matter.. At any rate, that isn't the topic at hand. I didn't even know about this "exploit". However, I never did take the opportunity to use it. As I am still at 312K prestige. Lord ForGG Server1. I do find it insulting you would punish people for your mistakes. You sound like some dictator of a 3rd world country lol. By they way, GIVE ME MY MEN BACK THAT WERE LOST IN THE BUG A COUPLE WEEKS AGO THAT I NEVER GOT!!!!! FIVE EMAIL AND STILL NO RESPONSE?

  8. #28

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    I agree with Dawnseeker, by the 3rd time you should have known you were exploiting the system and stopped, those that continued deserved what they got however further review is needed to ensure there were no mistakes and only guilty players were punished. Again to the guilty, shame on you, your mommy should have taught you better.

  9. #29

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    i think mythosgeek has the best answer here... Logic. At its best. :-)
    " A word the the wise aint necessary, It's the dumb ones who need the advice"

  10. #30

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    I sent a private message to Dawnseeker at 7:15 a.m. U.S. Central Time appealing my prestige loss, he hasn't even read it almost 15 hours later.

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