View Poll Results: What penalty should the small number of players who exploited receive?

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  • Prestige should be reset to 0.

    162 34.39%
  • There should be a penalty, but less severe. Remove extra Prestige and maybe a little more.

    72 15.29%
  • Only remove the Prestige gained through exploiting.

    134 28.45%
  • No penalty at all. Leave all the Prestige they gained.

    103 21.87%
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Thread: Prestige Reset Concerns

  1. #171

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    What I'd really like to know is why Sephi, on server 1, hasn't had his pres reduced to 0? Is there some reason he's allowed to jump 700k+ pres in a day or 2 and not be punished? Did he spend $1500+ on evony game cents, so is that why you're giving him a by? Is it just this time, or every time he exploits something in game, using "well he's put alot of money into the game" as an excuse?

    I've thrown thousands of warriors at NPCs. Not intentially to farm prestige, cos it's never really bothered me enough to do it. The reason I did it was to take defenses down so I could capture an NPC building. One of my alliance mates did the same thing, yet his prestige was reduced to 0 (and has since quit, along with many others I'd imagine), an his prestige didn't go up anywhere near as fast as Sephi's did.

    So what I'd like to know is why Sephi is going unpunished when he's now over 1mil pres AHEAD of the #2 ranked slot? Is he one of the Dev's sons/daughters/brothers/sisters/aunts/mothers/husbands/wives? Is he sleeping with enough of you that you just happen to bypass his name an accidentally take it off the punished pile and put it on the 'safe' pile?

    Despite my obvious sarcasm an snide comments, I'd really love some sort of reaction to this... since you're punishing all those you monitored and discovered were exploiting part of the game to farm prestige (and no doubt people who did it unwittingly), why is Sephi the only exception?

    Or is this thread the same as the "post here if you've lost things" thread, in that you make the thread, people post, and you just blatantly ignore it? Or are you going to selectively return troops to people you hand pick who, no doubt, have spent money on game cents. Don't you guys get bored making threads to make us players think you're doing stuff, then not actually follow through on things? fyi, I'm still missing 170k troops from over 2 weeks ago.

    `Kaos

    note: there may be others like Sephi who've been 'overlooked' when it comes to punishment-time, but I can only speak for server 1... which is currently where I play.
    Last edited by m1gu3lnz; 06-23-2009 at 10:45 AM.

  2. #172

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    Quote Originally Posted by blahblahbl View Post
    Ok Dawseeker and devs, What say you? This conversation has been huge and hot. The poll certainly shows only 30some pecent feel you were right in your actions... and likely that is simply from your wording of the poll.

    Can we get some answer now? End this and lets move on. Please and thank you.

    -Chris
    What???!?!?

    76% of people believe that the action is wrong and some punishment is appropriate. A plurality believe the actions taken were the most appropriate. What poll are you reading?
    Warning - Preceding message may contain high levels of sarcasm.

  3. #173

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    Hey I spl0ited too, take me back down to 0 plz.

  4. #174

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    If people actually had any sense of game design, then they will see what is going on here. Evony, like all online games are evolving, and unfortunately, such evolution can have unintended consequences as games become too big to test completely before release.

    This means the logic that "it is in the game, therefore it was meant to be" is fundamentally flawed. If anything, the Evony team continually ask us to report on what we think are bugs and exploits, because they know that their game is not going to be 100% perfect - no online game ever is, because such games are designed to continually evolve.

    The second fact is that, while an exploit may be known, it may not neccessarily be fixed promptly, because any intended fixes could have considerable consequences for the game. They COULD take the game off completely and fix whatever exploits and bugs they find, take it back to alpha testing, and we may get evony back to play in about three years, if at all. Instead, the team are having to balance the desires of a lot of players, with the responsibilities of trying to keep the game running for everyone to play as well. It will always be a double-edged sword.

    Don't like it? Don't play. It is that simple. Nobody is stopping you from leaving, but you will be lucky to find an online game where this doesn't happen that is still alive.

  5. #175
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    It's called a strawman.

  6. #176

    Default Devs have cut me out of the game

    Pres reset to 0 = I can't have any kind of interaction with anyone of my alliace. Re-enforcements, transports, anything. zilch. zero. I am the host, and i can't even send a guy some wood, or troops. I just sent 200k scouts as transports and 140k of them died. The same thing will happen with re-enforcements.. you can't do this to people.

  7. #177
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    Default Do Nothing at all.

    Ha ha. 65% of the people who voted think you went to far. You did, it was ridiculous and unwarranted. Perhaps you should fix the prestige "exploit" that lets you get prestige simply for comforting you people every 15 minutes. Or maybe you should fix the "exploit" that lets you pound a lvl 4 npc with 120 ballistas and no losses. Maybe you should fix the "exploit" that lets you log in to a game that the ground rules keep on changing.
    "From each according to their means, to each according to their needs" - The Communist Manifesto "I just want to spread the wealth around" - Barrack Obama

  8. #178
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    Okay You did right taking away my prestige, I gained 350k from it and now im 0, I think that was a Little harsh, Couldnt you have just taken the prestige i gained?

    On the other hand im happy you took away my prestige.. Alot of people have been attacking me, Thinking im weak. So they get a massive shock when they lose 60k+ Troops, Its doing alot to my honour, Plus it gives me a reason to take all there Resources
    328.065 Prestige - 03/7/09 -
    Host of RUIN! -Server 3 and Recruiting in Romagna- Message me or Apply to the Alliance.

  9. #179

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    A few posts have talk about how "we should have know better" was there any warring or post before that told us attacking NPCs (part of the game) was not allowed?? I had no clue I was doing anything wrong. I was under the impression that everyone was doing it.

    Are there defined rules saying that attacking with 1000 warriors is an exploit and attacking with 50,000 is not?

  10. #180

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    I'm not a big prestige person and personally don't think that it's such a big part of the game that the Devs need to punish those that got a bunch of it, because of the Devs lack of foresight.

    The whole thing could have been avoided if they simply did as other games do. Give you something for winning and don't give you anything for losing.

    It's a basic gaming concept. I'm really beginning to believe these Devs have never Gamed before.

    Yet another example of the Devs taking things to an extreme.
    Don't get me wrong, I love this game. I just hate the way it's handled.

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