Yea I hate to say it, but I still consider it music. Everything has a time and a place. And as long as it has some beat to it, and it makes someone move, it tends to be music.

I used to be so anti hip-hop, but seriously you really can't dance to heavy metal music. I mean you can rock out, head bang, and make a mess of yourself in movement, but its so hard to dance to. Hip-hop, remixed, super-manufactured without instruments still gets the ladies moving and you gotta join in LOL.

There's that group, trying to remember what they're called. Stomp, I think. They use like every day stuff to make music. Trash can lids, w/e lol. Truely whether something is music or is noise is in the listener's ear. There's some heavy metal where the dude just screams out lyrics from beginning to end, I consider noise lol.

It's in the eye of the beholder. Sorry for using such an old, overused phrase.