Well, as you will not believe Wikipedia and you will not believe the website if the Orthodox churches, than I suggest you go to your nearest Orthodox church, denomination does not matter, and ask them if they are under the authority of the Pope, the contention I believe what you are holding. Second, I agree the Innocent was powerful, I am not saying that he was not, I am simply saying that he was not the most powerful, after all, he excommunicated the crusading armies twice, and still could not control their actions. As I have said before I am going to go get the letters of the fourth crusade today, I don’t have them laying around my apartment, and I can provide you with chapter and verse. As for where you agreed with me, I and thrilled that you do, but do not really see what is left in that to discusses. And finally, I am in no way opposed to taking criticism or engaging in debate, but regarding my most recent posts, and I am guessing this is what you are referring to, I do get a little cranky after the tenth time someone has called me stupid, maybe it is a personal failing, but it just rubs me the wrong way.