Roosevelt and WWII

[MooseBoys]

DID YOU KNOW?

FDR led a secret war against the axis powers long before the US' official entrance into the war after the attack on pearl harbor. Such actions included secret arms trading, "lend-lease" agreements with the British which pretty much gave them unlimited interest-free loans to buy weapons and vehicles, and even open war against Germany's U-boats in the Atlantic. The US was even making moves against Japan as far back as 1939 with the formation of the American Volunteer Group (aka Flying Tigers) in China.

For more info, check this site.

[DieForelle]

America was in China to help Jian JieShi (Chiang Kaishek) destroy the communists, not to fight the japanese. However, as the Japanese invaded China, the Americans had to also help, because they were helping the KMT.

[Heinbokel]

that's cool.

[BBQ_Sauce]

DID YOU KNOW?

FDR led a secret war against the axis powers long before the US' official entrance into the war after the attack on pearl harbor. Such actions included secret arms trading, "lend-lease" agreements with the British which pretty much gave them unlimited interest-free loans to buy weapons and vehicles, and even open war against Germany's U-boats in the Atlantic. The US was even making moves against Japan as far back as 1939 with the formation of the American Volunteer Group (aka Flying Tigers) in China.

For more info, check this site.

None of this is a secret, lol. It was all well known even back in 1941. The Lend-Lease program was both public information and highly controversial.

I've never heard of blatant attacks on U-Boats by American ships before December 1941, though. I'm sure a few were sunk by convoy escorts, but there was no open war on the German Navy before the declaration of war on December 8.

[MooseBoys]

Originally this was a reply to someone who was b****ing about alliance wars, and they said something along the lines of "America didn't even defend their allies in WWII until Pearl Harbor." This reply got deleted for being off-topic, and I didn't want to see my efforts go to waste.

[iRovster]

Grats I guess?

[Zenrax]

It was no secret. They had to pass a bill through Congress, the Lend-Lease act, which ended up sending millions of tons of materiel to Britain, China, and Russia. Not the sort of thing that you can do without anybody noticing.

[abracax]

Originally this was a reply to someone who was b****ing about alliance wars, and they said something along the lines of "America didn't even defend their allies in WWII until Pearl Harbor." This reply got deleted for being off-topic, and I didn't want to see my efforts go to waste.

If you dig even deeper you will find that America did even more during WW2 than you state here or what everyone already knows. Such as providing intelligence, and those supposed loans to buy weapons from us. Those loans were only paperwork to bury the fact that the weapons were mostly given away, it was a way to keep congress buried in accounting before they ever could realize it.

Also, Americans were in Europe at the time volunteering in other armies because the US had not yet officially declared war. Many UK pilots and infantry were from the US, also in the French army.

The US did far more than we have ever got credit for in major conflicts, such as WW1 and WW2. Thats ok, because here in the US all we have to do is say, we saved your behind, without us jumping in Europe would all be speaking German or be part of the Ottoman empire.