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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesterus View Post
    Since your skull is this thick it is useless trying to explain logic to you.

    So you deserve all that you bring upon you in your righteous rant of self-noobishnish

    you have been told to hit an npc for gold because it is the logical choice, like I said how can you justify 700k gold per 10 hours

    100% tax isnt worth the risk of server crashes or in your case o0ops i r forgot let me go make a thread about it
    And, since your head is too thick, my point is that Rioting is overkill. Whatever the reasons to justify not using taxes.. Rioting is an overkill feature. Of course i camp npc. It should be obvious by the amounts i lost in this... overkill feature. Sure, I can never raise my taxes again. But, it won't change the fact that Rioting is an overkill feature. If somebody attacks me over and over and takes everything i own and sends me into riots... do i really need an overkill additional penalty at that point? So, even if I personally avoid it for the rest of my life.... it will still always be an overkill feature. Are you just gonna tell every new player that just starts that he should camp npcs and should not try to maximize starting tax collection? Did you? of course not. Just because we are at a point when npc allow the ability to ignore gold production, it doesn't change the fact that the feature is an overkill penalty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kage72 View Post
    And, since your head is too thick, my point is that Rioting is overkill. Whatever the reasons to justify not using taxes.. Rioting is an overkill feature. Of course i camp npc. It should be obvious by the amounts i lost in this... overkill feature. Sure, I can never raise my taxes again. But, it won't change the fact that Rioting is an overkill feature. If somebody attacks me over and over and takes everything i own and sends me into riots... do i really need an overkill additional penalty at that point? So, even if I personally avoid it for the rest of my life.... it will still always be an overkill feature. Are you just gonna tell every new player that just starts that he should camp npcs and should not try to maximize starting tax collection? Did you? of course not. Just because we are at a point when npc allow the ability to ignore gold production, it doesn't change the fact that the feature is an overkill penalty.
    Well the thing about multiple attacks is you can only get loyalty down to about 10-12 before your hits don't do anything anymore put turn the public grievance up by 1.

    So it seems realistic to allow the city to fall into a riot when people are really unhappy. I think they made it hard as it is to take a city, an attacker does depend on the public grievance to further tow down the city into a riot.

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    NPCs provide plenty of gold if you farm many of them, and again, if you do it more then twice a day + higher level ones.

    Rioting isn't going away because it's not overkill, and you're the only one who thinks it is, because it hit you AND you left your tax rate at 100%. They're not just going to sit there and give you 100% of their earnings; they're going to riot.

    As for new players, they don't belong on servers where they get obliterated. They can start of W5, get hit by a riot, asked what happened, FIX their tax rate, and then get on with their lives.

    I think this is the first time I've seen a board like this anyways. It's usually someone asking why their pop. is rioting, they fix it, than say thank you. Never once did I hear "Well that's stupid, it makes the game too hard, get rid of it."

    That tax rate is for early on in the game; I don't use it and don't know of any player that really does. So if it's hurting you that badly, throw up some barracks in their place and do it the correct way.


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    Quote Originally Posted by chinothepony View Post
    Well the thing about multiple attacks is you can only get loyalty down to about 10-12 before your hits don't do anything anymore put turn the public grievance up by 1.

    So it seems realistic to allow the city to fall into a riot when people are really unhappy. I think they made it hard as it is to take a city, an attacker does depend on the public grievance to further tow down the city into a riot.
    I don't mind the public grievance things. I'm just talking about the additional resources lost. As i mentioned before, if your being attacked over and over, this is not an issue since you've lost almost all your res. So, this penalty really only applies to leaving taxes high. So, let it take public grievance or whatever. Just don't take the additonal resources. over 6 million gold and 12 million food lost from just 1 city? All for an extra couple hours at high tax rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarchy View Post
    NPCs provide plenty of gold if you farm many of them, and again, if you do it more then twice a day + higher level ones.

    Rioting isn't going away because it's not overkill, and you're the only one who thinks it is, because it hit you AND you left your tax rate at 100%. They're not just going to sit there and give you 100% of their earnings; they're going to riot.

    As for new players, they don't belong on servers where they get obliterated. They can start of W5, get hit by a riot, asked what happened, FIX their tax rate, and then get on with their lives.

    I think this is the first time I've seen a board like this anyways. It's usually someone asking why their pop. is rioting, they fix it, than say thank you. Never once did I hear "Well that's stupid, it makes the game too hard, get rid of it."

    That tax rate is for early on in the game; I don't use it and don't know of any player that really does. So if it's hurting you that badly, throw up some barracks in their place and do it the correct way.
    I just think that logging on to no pulation and producing basically no reources because you didn't have people working is plenty penalty for leaving taxes high a few hours too long. To take an addition 100 hours worth of food/gold production for a couple hours of high taxes just seems rediculous.

    It's not a matter of making the game too hard. It's just a matter of overkill penalty for a mistake.

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    Some people don't want to play according to the rules of the game; they want the rules to be changed to match whatever is convenient etc for them.

    The developers can try all their best to make the game more foolproof for the masses; they will end up with larger number of bigger fools who will cry foul.

    Not everything in this post is directed toward a specific player or for that matter a non-player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kage72 View Post
    I just think that logging on to no pulation and producing basically no reources because you didn't have people working is plenty penalty for leaving taxes high a few hours too long. To take an addition 100 hours worth of food/gold production for a couple hours of high taxes just seems rediculous.

    It's not a matter of making the game too hard. It's just a matter of overkill penalty for a mistake.

    Say overkill just one more (500th Time please?).

    Honestly I don't use tax, it doesn't give much money, even at 70k/Hour. I don't find it an overkill (There I said it for you, now don't say it again) that if I leave it at 100 by mistake it takes all my ****. It's your fault.

    Its like in life. Stock market example. It's your first time doing it, and you did it wrong, somehow some regulation here or there made you lose all your money. Your like "F***, I didn't know that. WHAT A F***ing overkill!" Bad

    Bad example, but you know where I'm getting at.

    Yeah stop whining, it's something you learn, or were suppose in the early stages of playing this game. Quest to set it to 100% tax. It should say to leave it on at 100% and try to recover from all the damage. "Good luck"

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    you guys are just antagonists with no real constructive thinking. Yes, i generally post something when it effects me, otherwise, how would I know what I'm posting about.

    But, if i were to read a thread like this by somebody... even if it didn't effect me... I'd have to agree that the penalty is overkill(501). Too many trolls just try to hard to play devil's advocate rather than constructively discussing a topic.

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    OKAY, first.

    (This is not suppose to be offensive, eliminates one factor of being a troll)
    Learn the meaning of a troll. Did you hear it from a cool guy over the internets? and just decided to use it, because he was cool?

    Anyways I'm just saying that it's not worth complaining about, it's a pretty good thing to have. Who knows, even at 0 loyalty and 100 public grevieance(However you spell that), you still have the free amulet! (Brings me back to your other thread) You requested it to be different, tiered. I'm guessing your at 100k+ prestige, meaning speech text is CRAP to you, so if this unlucky scenario would have happened to you, no speech text for you, meaning time to start over, yay!

    Now, I think you saw what I did. I just put down BOTH of your ideas in 1 post, whilst being a troll in the last half . Awesome.


    EDIT: Now if you would start a thread about server 5 lagging, then I'll agree with you, day and night, about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kage72 View Post
    Since when is maximizing your yield stupid, idiot?.
    when it doesn't work for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kage72 View Post
    Just noticed the riots seems to happen like every hour, too. Just a pointless feature.
    you're having riots because you don't know how to manage your city. wouldn't you hate it if the leader of your country taxed you for everything you had?

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