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    Text Newbie Guide for NPC

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    Confirmed Archery and HBR combinations when raiding a lvl 5 npc city (the 0 loss combination will work for any npc lvl under it as well).
    Archery 07 / HBR 07 (Massive losses due to being in tower range, confirmed by Countryrazorback)

    Archery 08 / HBR 03 (Massive losses due to being in tower range, confirmed by simul)
    Archery 08 / HBR 04 (Smalls losses from units but @ tower safe range, confirmed by thetho21)
    Archery 08 / HBR 05 (0 Losses confirmed by me, shoko-koko, Cudaman73)
    Archery 08 / HBR 06 (0 Losses confirmed by Lena, Samuraial, Vanin, Icedppul and Zeddknite)
    Archery 08 / HBR 07 (0 Losses confirmed by akeness)
    Archery 08 / HBR 08 (Massive losses due to being in tower range, confirmed by Juan Guerra, and Leepang)
    Archery 08 / HBR 09 (Massive losses due to being in tower range, confirmed by CravenMore, and brycepunk1.)

    Archery 09 / HBR 01 (Small losses from units but @ tower safe range, confirmed by lingerer)
    Archery 09 / HBR 02 (0 Losses when using over 575 ballistas confirmed by Hand Shank)
    Archery 09 / HBR 03 (0 Losses confirmed by Zareth)
    Archery 09 / HBR 05 (Small losses from units but @ tower safe range, confirmed by me)
    Archery 09 / HBR 06 (Small losses from units but @ tower safe range, confirmed by me and soydeedo.)
    Archery 09 / HBR 07 (Small losses from units @ tower safe range, confirmed by me, soydeedo, and Kokoloko)
    Archery 09 / HBR 08 (0 Losses confirmed by Patta23)
    Archery 09 / HBR 09 (0 Losses confirmed by Shoko-koko, Smasher, and SeksuAlus)

    Archery 10 / HBR 05 (0 Losses confirmed by Zareth, Thalum, and Robertstewart55)
    Archery 10 / HBR 06 (0 Losses confirmed by JoMama)
    Archery 10 / HBR 07 (0 Losses confirmed by Zareth)
    Archery 10 / HBR 08 (0 Losses confirmed by Patta23, Mantooth, LordGastros, and MikieCGY)
    Archery 10 / HBR 09 (Since more people have shown 0 losses, I'm going to say it's good. Confirmed by me, JPA32, Kumquat, match, Scinto, xifins, SeksuAlus, Fubar2150, and Jabbers.)
    Archery 10 / HBR 10 (0 Losses confirmed by Angel_Fire and Ostoles)

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    You wouldn't really call this a guide, would you?

    do u even lift 1v1 il rek u


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    Here is something i can remember from a thread that got deleted, this is the amount of ballistas needed for a successful attack with zero losses on lvl 1-5 NPC's regardless of what your hero level/attack is. Of course you need a Archery/HBR combo with zero losses too.

    NPC lvl 1 - 20 Ballistas
    NPC lvl 2 - 50 Ballistas
    NPC lvl 3 - 170 Ballistas
    NPC lvl 4 - 250 Ballistas
    NPC lvl 5 - 550 Ballistas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynnore View Post
    Here is something i can remember from a thread that got deleted, this is the amount of ballistas needed for a successful attack with zero losses on lvl 1-5 NPC's regardless of what your hero level/attack is. Of course you need a Archery/HBR combo with zero losses too.

    NPC lvl 1 - 20 Ballistas
    NPC lvl 2 - 50 Ballistas
    NPC lvl 3 - 170 Ballistas
    NPC lvl 4 - 250 Ballistas
    NPC lvl 5 - 550 Ballistas
    Needs to be noted: These aren't the minimums, but they are safe assumptions for when you get started. With strong heroes, higher archery, etc, you can go less. I've done an NPC 5 with 520 and people in my alliance have said as low as 475.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiogron View Post
    Needs to be noted: These aren't the minimums, but they are safe assumptions for when you get started. With strong heroes, higher archery, etc, you can go less. I've done an NPC 5 with 520 and people in my alliance have said as low as 475.
    Its better to let the people tone down themselves and not assume your values would work too since it can be different for several people. Now someone can come on here and read forums thinking 'Oh he did it with 475' which may result in a loss of all their ballistas.

    To the people who read this, start off with the values i gave and tone down slowly 1-10 per time depending on the level NPC you plan to attack. If you get losses then go up a bit until you have the perfect amount of ballistas to send.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynnore View Post
    Its better to let the people tone down themselves and not assume your values would work too since it can be different for several people. Now someone can come on here and read forums thinking 'Oh he did it with 475' which may result in a loss of all their ballistas.

    To the people who read this, start off with the values i gave and tone down slowly 1-10 per time depending on the level NPC you plan to attack. If you get losses then go up a bit until you have the perfect amount of ballistas to send.
    Agreed 100%. That's why I used the phrase "safe assumptions to start".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiogron View Post
    Needs to be noted: These aren't the minimums, but they are safe assumptions for when you get started. With strong heroes, higher archery, etc, you can go less. I've done an NPC 5 with 520 and people in my alliance have said as low as 475.
    something is wrong because I attacked lvl 5 NPC with 1000 BAL (lvl 7 archery) and lost everything, the only thing i can see what happened was the NPC had never been attacked before... ?????

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    DeadPoolZ - if you note the comments in the OP, for attacking a lvl 5 NPC with NO losses, you MUST have a MINIMUM of archery 8, HBR 5.

    "Confirmed Archery and HBR combinations when raiding a lvl 5 npc city"

    Archery 07 / HBR 07 (Massive losses due to being in tower range, confirmed by Countryrazorback)
    Archery 08 / HBR 04 (Smalls losses from units but @ tower safe range, confirmed by thetho21)
    Archery 08 / HBR 05 (0 Losses confirmed by me, shoko-koko, Cudaman73)

    Until your archery reaches 8 and HBR 5, I suggest you stick with NPCs lvl 4 and under.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiogron View Post
    Needs to be noted: These aren't the minimums, but they are safe assumptions for when you get started. With strong heroes, higher archery, etc, you can go less. I've done an NPC 5 with 520 and people in my alliance have said as low as 475.
    I routinely (10 times a day) do NPC5 with 350. Send a decent hero (60 at least) for a decent distance or else you could lose up to 11 ballistas
    But Arch is 10 HBR is 9

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    Quote Originally Posted by effel View Post
    I routinely (10 times a day) do NPC5 with 350. Send a decent hero (60 at least) for a decent distance or else you could lose up to 11 ballistas
    But Arch is 10 HBR is 9
    ---Yep, 325 is the minimum w/no losses, a level 60 hero, 116 attack having Lv.10 archery & 9 HBR. Lv.9 logistics I haven't worked out yet but I still send 440 trans for the spoils, collecting all. 300 gives me from 17-20 ballista lost. Haven't tried anything between.


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