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    Quote Originally Posted by Raevynhart View Post
    I am new at this and would really like some clarification on what is happening here. It makes no sense to me and I would really appreciate someone explaining this as it is making attacks not only difficult, but dangerous as well, as shown by the following reports.

    First, I see a city and scout it. Informatics is too low (Mine is 10, btw, so how can it be too low as it is the maximum) so I see that there are other scouts there that are defending. Fine, I send over a few waves and finally I send over the wave that kills all his as shown by this report.

    battle27.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20090826/1a/02/1a021d39970e039e925d1cdd4d590a28.xml

    Now, as you can see, I have killed them all, I see his fortifications, resources, etc., and he has just 1000 ATs. Fine again. I also notice that there are no troops listed, so I scout again... Just to make sure! Here it is...

    battle27.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20090826/cd/0f/cd0f8001b7105a811bb7f59d69333e59.xml

    As you can see, he now has 1100 AT's as well as NO OTHER TROOPS! Excellent! So I think to myself, he has 22 mill in resources, I need a lot of transports and I can EASILY take out those towers. I know that a 5:1 ratio is normally enough as I have Archery 10. Just to be safe, I make it almost an 8:1 ratio and I send over 8000 archers and 2900 Transports. I attack and this is what I see...

    battle27.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20090826/90/94/909464c42ba0c6defc060b169a4209e5.xml

    As you see, I didnt get ANY information as to what killed them at all. I looked ALL around and since I was only 11.2 miles away from this city and the closest person of his alliance was 46.4 miles away, he could NOT have reinforced with anyone so therefore, there must have been troops inside the city that killed my attackers.

    Now, can someone please explain this to me? I have gone over it again and again in my mind and I find there is NOTHING I did wrong. My questions are the following:
    1. Why did I not get any information on the troops inside the city with over 3000 returning scouts?

    2. Why did I not get any information on the second scout of troops that were inside the city?

    3. Yes, I know that I didnt kill 10% of the attacking force, but why cant I see ANYTHING at all about what attacked me. Even just one line of something that says I killed "this" amount of "such and such" troops.

    Sorry for being so long winded, but I wanted to explain every detail I could to make it clear to whoever reads this. Any information you can give me would be highly appreciated.

    Thank you,
    Rae
    Of course you haven't got a clue if this person is online or offline when you are doing your scouting.

    If he's online, he sees your scouting coming, he closes his gates and all you get is the 1100 AT's, I'm not sure why you don't see anything else, but that could be because of your beacon tower.

    Then you send in some waves, remember he's still online, about 10 seconds before the first wave hits, he opens his gate and all of a sudden his army pops up, fighting off yours, killing them.

    He also could have had his troops in a valley nearby, he loses a lot of food there, but with 22mio he can hack that, attack wave comes in, just before you hit, his army is back at base.

    Third option, he has got a lot of defending troops in his embassy, from his alliance. I'm not sure if they show up, but they defend nevertheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EduLeics I View Post
    Of course you haven't got a clue if this person is online or offline when you are doing your scouting.

    If he's online, he sees your scouting coming, he closes his gates and all you get is the 1100 AT's, I'm not sure why you don't see anything else, but that could be because of your beacon tower.

    Then you send in some waves, remember he's still online, about 10 seconds before the first wave hits, he opens his gate and all of a sudden his army pops up, fighting off yours, killing them.

    He also could have had his troops in a valley nearby, he loses a lot of food there, but with 22mio he can hack that, attack wave comes in, just before you hit, his army is back at base.

    Third option, he has got a lot of defending troops in his embassy, from his alliance. I'm not sure if they show up, but they defend nevertheless.
    You really shouldn't give advice if you don't understand the game at all. First off, last I checked, you don't see Scouting waves incoming.

    22 million is not alot of food.

    If an alliance has troops in your city it shows up on scouting reports, assuming your scouting effort succeeded.

    You can reinforce ALOT faster from 40+ miles, than you can attack from 11 miles. Especially since you sent transports. Probably took your attack an hour to land, but you could reinforce with archers from that distance in like 15 minutes.

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    Not sure I agree entirely with a couple points -

    nbforrest - remember there are more factors involved besides just lvl 10 informatics. Most times, you having lvl 10 informatics just cancels each other out because your opponent more than likely has it too. Beacon tower levels and the intel stat on the hero plays more of a role when that happens. If you failed theres a reason, and its not just because its a bug.

    joecool914 - If you are online, you can detect when scouting raids are happening by reviving your dead scouts. You cant defend against it, but you will get a report if your gate is open once the scouts die again. Once they die, just continue to revive them again. You can always "know" when someone is scouting you... granted you have to be online to revive them.

    Also 40k-70k of archers can survive for while in a city with 22 mil food. Obviously more food is better, but in concept of this scenario with the pending attack it's plenty for the amount of time given. Even if you sent a huge batch of troops eating millions of food an hour, it would still last the night.

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