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    Quote Originally Posted by marvictrejo View Post
    all u need in order to not get your account deleted is game cents.
    This thread and it's terrible advice were aimed at protectin' your cities from attacks, not inactivity deletion.

    And as far as that goes, you don't even need game cents; you only need 1k prestige to be virtually guaranteed to never be deleted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkbrady View Post
    Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
    10 extra loyalty will not help. Why? Because if someone wants to cap your city then 10 loyalty only takes an extra 2/3 attacks..you've wasted all of 3 minutes of their day; if that was your goal, well done. If protectin' your city was your plan, you screwed up.

    If you're not in an alliance you shouldn't go offline expectin'to come back to an unplundered city. Get in an alliance would be a helpful tip. Fortifications from allies help.

    Mayors with high int do not prevent scout efforts. Plain and simple. What does prevent it? Scouts. But you have your gates closed, so your scouts sit back and let enemies scout you. Well done. One point of advice managed to screw over the next one, too.

    Resources on the market can be raided. Puttin' them on the market will only incur the trade fee for you and any enemy comin' will still happily take them all.

    Hero loyalty is a dice roll. 95 loyalty and there's a 5% chance they'll leave anyways. And if they lose a fight they lose loyalty. And over time their loyalty will dip back down to 70 anyways. And when you get plundered you lose money to pay them. And when listenin' to all this failed advice gets your city capped, the hero will then belong to the enemy regardless of their loyalty.

    Not that this was a bad guide or anythin', it jus' didn't achieve what people typically want...to keep their cities when they go offline.
    if that person has a lower compass and it takes them for ever to attack you then go for higher loyalty.

    if you wanna keep your good heroes a would get there loyalty up to 95-100% regardless if theres a 5% chance they will leave.

    like i said in the guide if you want to play it safe close your gates if not leave them open and that's were the next one comes in only if your gates are open.

    so im sorry but i dont know if you just didnt really pay attention or you just skimed through it but what ever you did you probly have never been attacked while offline... *sighs
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    Quote Originally Posted by marvictrejo View Post
    all u need in order to not get your account deleted is game cents.
    what does that have to do with this anyways???
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    Quote Originally Posted by captian virk View Post
    Surviving While Offline:


    Being attacked when you’re not online can be a nightmare, but if you do a few things before you log off it might help save your city from being taken over. (First two are obvious I think, but that’s just me.)

    1. When you log-off put your tax rate down 10-15 to give you higher loyalty. (Not unless your an experienced player and want to get a lot of gold when you log off for a while.)

    2. Close your gates, depending on the amount of troops you have, but if you want to play it safe I would close them. (Not unless you have no fortification and if your willing to lose some troops possibly.)

    3. (Only works with gates open.)Take your hero with the highest intelligence and appoint them as hero to prevent scouting of your city.

    4. (Only necessary if you have a ton of resources.) Put your resources in the market, but make sure there at high prices so no one will buy them. This is so that no one will want to attack you just because you have a bunch of resources.

    5. Give the heroes you want to keep rewards so that they have more loyalty. That way if you are attacked and plundered your heroes wont leave.


    Well there ya have it pretty simple couldn't find any thing on it in the forums so i figured id post what i knew on the subject.
    1. When I have a lvl9 or 10 rally spot, you are only sparring yourself another couple minutes for 3-5 more waves. Thats it, not worth it imo. The 8 hours or so you are sleeping you could accumulate more valuable gold instead.

    2. I would never suggest closing your gates unless you are in an inactive alliance that doesn't help. I for one am in a very coordinated alliance, when we see one of our own getting attacked, we send reinforcements. If your gates are closed, reinforcements can't help.

    3. This doesn't help at all. In fact you are losing tons of valuable resources by not using your high Pol hero. Perhaps, if you were really worried about scouts, you could switch to your highest att hero, so you lose less scouts when scouted. But like I said, not worth it at all imo.

    4. I could actually see this as viable. Hiding your resources would help. I know if I scout a lower prestige player and he doesn't have more then 500k-1m of almost all resources, it isn't worth my time. So seeming smaller then you are could actually be viable.

    5. 100 loyalty is fine, all your heros should be at that. And it would take a lot to lower a hero from 100 down and then cap him. It is plausible, just very rare.


    I think another strategy missing would be, putting extra resources into 50 sized Archer's Towers. For two reasons:
    First: Your resources are going somewhere helpfull.
    Second: If you are attacked and they wipe your defenses, once they start sending waves your ATs could potentially clear his waves depending on his time to your city and how many get made. Or if he is just plundering your city, you will at least produce some by time you get back on.

    Overall I wouldn't suggest the majority of these suggestions. The best defense is a good offense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zim View Post
    1. When I have a lvl9 or 10 rally spot, you are only sparring yourself another couple minutes for 3-5 more waves. Thats it, not worth it imo. The 8 hours or so you are sleeping you could accumulate more valuable gold instead.

    2. I would never suggest closing your gates unless you are in an inactive alliance that doesn't help. I for one am in a very coordinated alliance, when we see one of our own getting attacked, we send reinforcements. If your gates are closed, reinforcements can't help.

    3. This doesn't help at all. In fact you are losing tons of valuable resources by not using your high Pol hero. Perhaps, if you were really worried about scouts, you could switch to your highest att hero, so you lose less scouts when scouted. But like I said, not worth it at all imo.

    4. I could actually see this as viable. Hiding your resources would help. I know if I scout a lower prestige player and he doesn't have more then 500k-1m of almost all resources, it isn't worth my time. So seeming smaller then you are could actually be viable.

    5. 100 loyalty is fine, all your heros should be at that. And it would take a lot to lower a hero from 100 down and then cap him. It is plausible, just very rare.


    I think another strategy missing would be, putting extra resources into 50 sized Archer's Towers. For two reasons:
    First: Your resources are going somewhere helpfull.
    Second: If you are attacked and they wipe your defenses, once they start sending waves your ATs could potentially clear his waves depending on his time to your city and how many get made. Or if he is just plundering your city, you will at least produce some by time you get back on.

    Overall I wouldn't suggest the majority of these suggestions. The best defense is a good offense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by captian virk View Post
    if that person has a lower compass and it takes them for ever to attack you then go for higher loyalty.

    if you wanna keep your good heroes a would get there loyalty up to 95-100% regardless if theres a 5% chance they will leave.

    like i said in the guide if you want to play it safe close your gates if not leave them open and that's were the next one comes in only if your gates are open.

    so im sorry but i dont know if you just didnt really pay attention or you just skimed through it but what ever you did you probly have never been attacked while offline... *sighs
    Compass..which has nothin' to do w/ an extra 5/10 loyalty. Idc if that person has 50, 75 or 100 loyalty, it can still be capped in less than an hour; specially since the loyalty spam waves are typically done by cav.

    You can use your heroes at 100 loy if you want..personally I have them hoverin' around 70 and only worry about puttin' them up if I think I'm likely to get attacked/lose a fight. At the end of the day, if their loyalty is 55 or higher, the odds are you're gunna keep them. It's a dice roll.

    Playin' it safe would be keepin' your gates open...keepin' your gates closed serves only to guarantee you have no defences or troops to fight enemies...all an enemy needs to do is wipe the ATs and then they can slam you till you're at 5 loy and..bam..your gates open anywyas. By that point your army can fight back...but you've probably lost half your resources and population from riots by that point...might as well save all that and jus' open your gates. And as Zim said; alliance reinforcements make a big difference, too.

    I paid plenty of attention; thas why I'm so furiously pickin' your "guide" apart. I have been attacked whiel offline before and know full well that nigh everythin' you're suggestin' will only lead to guaranteein' more loss than necesary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by captian virk View Post
    Surviving While Offline:


    Being attacked when you’re not online can be a nightmare, but if you do a few things before you log off it might help save your city from being taken over.

    1. When you log-off put your tax rate down 10-15 to give you higher loyalty. (This is useless if you are being attacked by some one with a high rally spot.)

    2. Close your gates, depending on the amount of troops you have.(only close your gates if you are not in a good alliance or are not in one at all.)

    3. (Only works with gates open.)Take your hero with the highest attack and appoint them as hero to prevent scouting of your city(make sure you have a good bit of scouts to fight back.)

    4. (Only necessary if you have a ton of resources.) Put your resources in the market, but make sure there at high prices so no one will buy them. This is so that no one will want to attack you just because you have a bunch of resources.

    5. Give the heroes you want to keep rewards so that they have more loyalty. That way if you are attacked and plundered your heroes wont leave.

    6. Invest in archer towers!!! (the best of them all.)



    Well there ya have it pretty simple couldn't find any thing on it in the forums so i figured id post what i knew on the subject.

    Those things above is junk. Sorry, but I only say the true, no hard feeling ok. Here is the best defense:

    1. find yourselves a spot in a prominent alliance in your area
    2. stack up 100k archers with layer units
    3. build barbs on every empty flat within 20 miles around your towns
    4. kill every cities within 30 miles from your town. If someone too big for u, call for help from your alliance.

    Remember, the best defense is offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkbrady View Post
    Compass..which has nothin' to do w/ an extra 5/10 loyalty. Idc if that person has 50, 75 or 100 loyalty, it can still be capped in less than an hour; specially since the loyalty spam waves are typically done by cav.

    You can use your heroes at 100 loy if you want..personally I have them hoverin' around 70 and only worry about puttin' them up if I think I'm likely to get attacked/lose a fight. At the end of the day, if their loyalty is 55 or higher, the odds are you're gunna keep them. It's a dice roll.

    Playin' it safe would be keepin' your gates open...keepin' your gates closed serves only to guarantee you have no defences or troops to fight enemies...all an enemy needs to do is wipe the ATs and then they can slam you till you're at 5 loy and..bam..your gates open anywyas. By that point your army can fight back...but you've probably lost half your resources and population from riots by that point...might as well save all that and jus' open your gates. And as Zim said; alliance reinforcements make a big difference, too.

    I paid plenty of attention; thas why I'm so furiously pickin' your "guide" apart. I have been attacked whiel offline before and know full well that nigh everythin' you're suggestin' will only lead to guaranteein' more loss than necesary.
    1. compass helps with the speed of there troops if its high then your out of luck if its low thats more time for you.

    2. ... yea

    3. plz read the guide agian i had changed it a while before you posted this 0_o

    4. language problems there buddy??? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by runonwater View Post
    Those things above is junk. Sorry, but I only say the true, no hard feeling ok. Here is the best defense:

    1. find yourselves a spot in a prominent alliance in your area
    2. stack up 100k archers with layer units
    3. build barbs on every empty flat within 20 miles around your towns
    4. kill every cities within 30 miles from your town. If someone too big for u, call for help from your alliance.

    Remember, the best defense is offense.
    the only problem is what if you dont have a good alliance???

    but i do agree with number 2 lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by captian virk View Post
    1. compass helps with the speed of there troops if its high then your out of luck if its low thats more time for you.

    2. ... yea

    3. plz read the guide agian i had changed it a while before you posted this 0_o

    4. language problems there buddy??? lol
    But this guide is assumin' you're offline; their lower speed (which, let's face it; no one really has..MOST people have high compass/HBR lvls) is pretty much irrelevant when you're not online to change anythin' anyways. Again, 10~15 extra loy won't help when each attack wipes 4/5 loy..that's another 2/3 attacks to negate your "defence".

    It's not really changed, much. Even in a smaller alliance or my own I think I'd rather not close my gates...lettin' enemies take me for a ride w/o givin' any fight back is a *****, and when they're tryin' to cap you..well I already covered that in the last post..might as well let your defence do the work before your loy gets raped.

    Language problems? I count one spellin' error and, at most, a couple of typos. What language problems do you think I have, exactly? Personally, I'd say my language is better than yours, while you're sittin' typin' things like "plz"...

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