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  1. #361

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    No not manual. ;]
    thx
    Going to add in the tech bonuses now.

  2. #362

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    Quote Originally Posted by Efward View Post
    No not manual. ;]
    thx
    Going to add in the tech bonuses now.
    Oh man, if you can get a working calculator that's more customizable than the stupid Exercise, you should share with us

  3. #363

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    Found this interesting.
    Ran the simulation again with arch 10 added in on both sides and the actual combat started earlier (as expected with the greater range on both sides) but lasted longer (28 rounds vs 26) and resulted in greater AT loss (355 remaining AT vs 540)



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    Battle Begins at 5000 feet
    A(R)=1800
    AT(R)=1950
    Round 1
    Archers: 5000 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - AT: 1000
    Archers move: 250 New Position: 4750 Range to target: 4750 In Range? No
    Archer Towers Range to target: 4750 In Range? No
    Round 2
    Archers: 5000 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - AT: 1000
    Archers move: 250 New Position: 4500 Range to target: 4500 In Range? No
    Archer Towers Range to target: 4500 In Range? No

    ...

    Round 13
    Archers: 5000 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - AT: 1000
    Archers move: 250 New Position: 1750 Range to target: 1750 In Range? Yes - Attack!
    archer ranged effectiveness:0.9722222222222222 0.5 archer ranged effectiveness:0.5 2500.0
    Number of Archers attacking 5000 Archer attack 120
    Total damage 300000.0 AT defense 360
    Total damage to AT 192000.0
    AT life 2000
    Total number of AT lost 96.0

    Archer Towers Range to target: 1750 In Range? Yes - Attack!
    1750 1950
    AT ranged effectiveness:0.8974358974358975 0.5 archerTower ranged effectiveness:0.5 500.0
    Number of AT attacking 1000 AT attack 300
    Total damage 150000.0 Archer defense 50
    Total damage to archers 142500.0
    Archer life 250
    Total number of archers lost 570.0

    ...

    Round 22
    Archers: 1391 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - AT: 450
    Archers move: 250 New Position: 1750 Range to target: 1750 In Range? Yes - Attack!
    archer ranged effectiveness:0.9722222222222222 0.5 archer ranged effectiveness:0.5 695.5
    Number of Archers attacking 1391 Archer attack 120
    Total damage 83460.0 AT defense 360
    Total damage to AT 53414.4
    AT life 2000
    Total number of AT lost 26.7072

    Archer Towers Range to target: 1750 In Range? Yes - Attack!
    1750 1950
    AT ranged effectiveness:0.8974358974358975 0.5 archerTower ranged effectiveness:0.5 225.0
    Number of AT attacking 450 AT attack 300
    Total damage 67500.0 Archer defense 50
    Total damage to archers 64125.0
    Archer life 250
    Total number of archers lost 256.5
    Round 23
    Archers: 1134 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - AT: 423
    Archers move: 250 New Position: 1750 Range to target: 1750 In Range? Yes - Attack!
    archer ranged effectiveness:0.9722222222222222 0.5 archer ranged effectiveness:0.5 567.0
    Number of Archers attacking 1134 Archer attack 120
    Total damage 68040.0 AT defense 360
    Total damage to AT 43545.6
    AT life 2000
    Total number of AT lost 21.7728

    Archer Towers Range to target: 1750 In Range? Yes - Attack!
    1750 1950
    AT ranged effectiveness:0.8974358974358975 0.5 archerTower ranged effectiveness:0.5 211.5
    Number of AT attacking 423 AT attack 300
    Total damage 63450.0 Archer defense 50
    Total damage to archers 60277.5
    Archer life 250
    Total number of archers lost 241.11
    Round 24
    Archers: 892 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - AT: 401
    Archers move: 250 New Position: 1750 Range to target: 1750 In Range? Yes - Attack!
    archer ranged effectiveness:0.9722222222222222 0.5 archer ranged effectiveness:0.5 446.0
    Number of Archers attacking 892 Archer attack 120
    Total damage 53520.0 AT defense 360
    Total damage to AT 34252.8
    AT life 2000
    Total number of AT lost 17.1264

    Archer Towers Range to target: 1750 In Range? Yes - Attack!
    1750 1950
    AT ranged effectiveness:0.8974358974358975 0.5 archerTower ranged effectiveness:0.5 200.5
    Number of AT attacking 401 AT attack 300
    Total damage 60150.0 Archer defense 50
    Total damage to archers 57142.5
    Archer life 250
    Total number of archers lost 228.57
    Round 25
    Archers: 663 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - AT: 383
    Archers move: 250 New Position: 1750 Range to target: 1750 In Range? Yes - Attack!
    archer ranged effectiveness:0.9722222222222222 0.5 archer ranged effectiveness:0.5 331.5
    Number of Archers attacking 663 Archer attack 120
    Total damage 39780.0 AT defense 360
    Total damage to AT 25459.2
    AT life 2000
    Total number of AT lost 12.7296

    Archer Towers Range to target: 1750 In Range? Yes - Attack!
    1750 1950
    AT ranged effectiveness:0.8974358974358975 0.5 archerTower ranged effectiveness:0.5 191.5
    Number of AT attacking 383 AT attack 300
    Total damage 57450.0 Archer defense 50
    Total damage to archers 54577.5
    Archer life 250
    Total number of archers lost 218.31
    Round 26
    Archers: 444 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - AT: 370
    Archers move: 250 New Position: 1750 Range to target: 1750 In Range? Yes - Attack!
    archer ranged effectiveness:0.9722222222222222 0.5 archer ranged effectiveness:0.5 222.0
    Number of Archers attacking 444 Archer attack 120
    Total damage 26640.0 AT defense 360
    Total damage to AT 17049.6
    AT life 2000
    Total number of AT lost 8.524799999999999

    Archer Towers Range to target: 1750 In Range? Yes - Attack!
    1750 1950
    AT ranged effectiveness:0.8974358974358975 0.5 archerTower ranged effectiveness:0.5 185.0
    Number of AT attacking 370 AT attack 300
    Total damage 55500.0 Archer defense 50
    Total damage to archers 52725.0
    Archer life 250
    Total number of archers lost 210.9
    Round 27
    Archers: 233 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - AT: 361
    Archers move: 250 New Position: 1750 Range to target: 1750 In Range? Yes - Attack!
    archer ranged effectiveness:0.9722222222222222 0.5 archer ranged effectiveness:0.5 116.5
    Number of Archers attacking 233 Archer attack 120
    Total damage 13980.0 AT defense 360
    Total damage to AT 8947.2
    AT life 2000
    Total number of AT lost 4.4736

    Archer Towers Range to target: 1750 In Range? Yes - Attack!
    1750 1950
    AT ranged effectiveness:0.8974358974358975 0.5 archerTower ranged effectiveness:0.5 180.5
    Number of AT attacking 361 AT attack 300
    Total damage 54150.0 Archer defense 50
    Total damage to archers 51442.5
    Archer life 250
    Total number of archers lost 205.77
    Round 28
    Archers: 27 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - AT: 356
    Archers move: 250 New Position: 1750 Range to target: 1750 In Range? Yes - Attack!
    archer ranged effectiveness:0.9722222222222222 0.5 archer ranged effectiveness:0.5 13.5
    Number of Archers attacking 27 Archer attack 120
    Total damage 1620.0 AT defense 360
    Total damage to AT 1036.8
    AT life 2000
    Total number of AT lost 0.5184

    Archer Towers Range to target: 1750 In Range? Yes - Attack!
    1750 1950
    AT ranged effectiveness:0.8974358974358975 0.5 archerTower ranged effectiveness:0.5 178.0
    Number of AT attacking 356 AT attack 300
    Total damage 53400.0 Archer defense 50
    Total damage to archers 50730.0
    Archer life 250
    Total number of archers lost 202.92

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  4. #364

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    Quote Originally Posted by Efward View Post
    Found this interesting.
    Ran the simulation again with arch 10 added in on both sides and the actual combat started earlier (as expected with the greater range on both sides) but lasted longer (28 rounds vs 26) and resulted in greater AT loss (355 remaining AT vs 540)
    I assume you've simulated the ranged damage penalty so my guess is since the range is higher, the Archers spend a greater amount of time in the 100% damage zone as opposed to earlier.

    However, the ATs is benefiting from the same so I'm not sure why they don't kill the Archers at a faster rate.

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    Ran again with arch 10 added in on both sides and offensive compass lvl 9.
    The actual combat started earlier -round 7 (as expected with the greater archer speed)
    The fight lasted 22 rounds and resulted in the same 355 AT surviving.

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    Ran again with:
    Attackers
    arch 10
    compass lvl 9
    Military Tradition lvl 9
    Defenders
    arch 10
    Military Tradition lvl 9
    Actual combat started -round 7
    Fight lasted 17 rounds and resulted in 342 AT surviving.

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    Ran again with:
    Attackers
    arch 10
    compass lvl 9
    Military Tradition lvl 9
    Iron Working lvl 10
    Defenders
    arch 10
    Military Tradition lvl 9
    Iron Working lvl 10
    Actual combat started -round 7
    Fight lasted 15 rounds and resulted in 568 AT surviving.
    Last edited by Efward; 11-22-2009 at 11:31 AM. Reason: added another trial

  6. #366

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neokarasu View Post
    I assume you've simulated the ranged damage penalty so my guess is since the range is higher, the Archers spend a greater amount of time in the 100% damage zone as opposed to earlier.

    However, the ATs is benefiting from the same so I'm not sure why they don't kill the Archers at a faster rate.
    Actually in this scenario, the attacking archers never get to the 100% damage range. They stand and shoot once in range of the defending AT, inflicting only 50%.

  7. #367

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    Ahh you're right.

    edit: I figured it out.
    Basically the Archers got an extra round compared to last time.
    Without Arch10, Archers moved to 1250 (>1200) and got shot at.
    With Arch10, Archers moved to 1750 (<1800) and got shot at but started shooting back.
    Last edited by Neokarasu; 11-22-2009 at 10:53 AM.

  8. #368

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    Efward, try running the sim with Compass4 or Compass8. That should give you the same results as the Archery0 case since with either Compass level, Archers would stop just outside of their shooting range (at 1850 to be exact).

  9. #369

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neokarasu View Post
    Efward, try running the sim with Compass4 or Compass8. That should give you the same results as the Archery0 case since with either Compass level, Archers would stop just outside of their shooting range (at 1850 to be exact).
    Arch10 and comp4?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Efward View Post
    Arch10 and comp4?
    Yes.

    Should start combat at round9 for Compass4 and round7 for Compass8.

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