How to kill the scout bomb:

[Afro]

i never said scout bomb are useless i am saying they are useless when you try to scout bomb someone with 300k+ archer even if the other have 200k it be a waste of scout already. scout bomb is for small scale war. try and do scout bomb on player with 300k-500k archer and you will see how pointless it is

[Speakie]

[QUOTE=Afro;567153]why not just build more archer instead. have anyone try 50 wave of 100k scout vs 500k archer before? it really ez to test this out just use the exercise.[/[QUOTE]

Wrong. Due to technologies the excersise will be incorrect unless the player has 0 on every technology I believe

[evintide]

Yes,thats what im saying. U r completely defenceless against scoutbombs when u r offline,even if u hve 200k archer in ur city. 600k scouts come n tear those archers down. N then just nid 100k archers pass ur city easily

1.you'd remove roughly 120k archers with that, once healed and resent if you've got a high wounded rate you might get two more shots out of them which leaves 40k archers behind towers.....your hundered k probably isn't going to bust through 14k towers and 40k archers.
2. secondly if your opponent has 500k archers behind walls i don't care how many hundereds of thousands of archers you send at them...your going to get the same report every time. all yours dead. not one of theirs dead. scout bomb is the only way to bring down a large archer army unless your sending mass cavs and phracts at it. of course you could always send 100k rams but really, who has that many but a select few.

[redwhiteandblue]

i never said scout bomb are useless i am saying they are useless when you try to scout bomb someone with 300k+ archer even if the other have 200k it be a waste of scout already. scout bomb is for small scale war. try and do scout bomb on player with 300k-500k archer and you will see how pointless it is

I think the exact opposite is true. Scout bombs are needed for LARGE scale warfare and not needed for small-scale warfare. Scout bombing is the only way to crack someone with 200k archers+ sitting behind towers/walls/abatis.

[1324467]

I think the exact opposite is true. Scout bombs are needed for LARGE scale warfare and not needed for small-scale warfare. Scout bombing is the only way to crack someone with 200k archers+ sitting behind towers/walls/abatis.

true, very true.

[Ken999]

When people begin to use scout bombs, the objective is to WIN.
Losses are irrelevant.
Honor is irrelevant.
All those trash talk about how long it takes to build .... how much it takes to build .... are all irrelevant.

The only objective is to break a seemingly undefeatable defense. Take it over and ABANDON it.

[Darkbrady]

Yes,thats what im saying. U r completely defenceless against scoutbombs when u r offline,even if u hve 200k archer in ur city. 600k scouts come n tear those archers down. N then just nid 100k archers pass ur city easily

My purpose is to prove that statement wrong.
I've shown screenies of swords endin' scoutbomb attempts w/ virtually no loss and not a single scratch on an archer.
If you have the proper manshield; you are completely defended agaist scoutbombs.

Not my fault if some one-minded fool decids to build 3mil archers, 500k warriors and neglect swords altogether.

i never said scout bomb are useless i am saying they are useless when you try to scout bomb someone with 300k+ archer even if the other have 200k it be a waste of scout already. scout bomb is for small scale war. try and do scout bomb on player with 300k-500k archer and you will see how pointless it is

You're wrong in so many ways, there.
Scoutbombs are a waste against less than 200k archers becasue you can send in anythin' you want to kill them off.
Scoutbombs are only effective in large scale warfare. If the opponent has too few enemies you're sendin' a nuke to kill a kitten; pointless.
Build up 500k archers and have someone scoutbomb you; you'll see how devastatin' it cna be....unless you take my advice and defend your archers properly.

Ken had it right; it's not about losses, or resources or time; it's about takin' down your enemy no matter what the cost. Jus' becasue 100k archers are more resource efficient than 2mil scouts doesnae mean they're more combat efficient. It would not be a widely used tactic if it didn't work.

[Fedec]

Think I should have qualified my numbers a bit more clearly..

I am working from equal numbers of archers to attacking scouts for my ratio's - I believe the attack numbers also are used in the equation as to whom the scouts attack first - so Darkbrady is correct in his test, however he had many more scouts attacking than the defence.

Had it been = archers and scouts the numbers would work.

As an aside I would never use the exact ratio -as stated in my first post your taking losses per attack so an exact ratio would fall short after the first wave so you must include sufficient extra's to allow for those losses over an extended period whilst your offline.

I would say at least 100k additional troops of whatever your using as a shield to be the minimum to put off a determined attacker from scout bombing you.

As already stated by others they dont care how many casualties they take - its about killing your defence.

Even then - if they have over 3mil scouts available they will use them, so buyer beware.

[Sir Rodney]

K this works?

[darklightz]

Fedec said it; the scouts reach the archers before they can do anythin', and the scouts get killed in one round regardless; whether it's down to 500k archers of 50bil archers, they cannae kill them any faster than one round, so it doesnae reduce casualties.

Anyhoo, on-topic. Here are two results for swords (I didnae have enough spare scouts left for pikes; someone else gets to do that)

Since I only had enough spare scouts for two attacks I couldnae definte it down any further. Havin' the swords at Fedecs ratio was incorrect, and allowed the scouts to pass them over and get the archers, wherein they got killed. Havin' a much higher ratio (I used 2:1) the scouts slammed into the shields relatively harmlessly.

So you did not train a single scout?