petioned signed - on 80+ servers, I've only ever seen 1 rose on a level 3 swamp attack with scouts (not mine) and 1 from an attack on a level 10 hill with high body count (near 8k combined). I've read its now all about body count and that seems to comfirm it. High loss with scouts on the lvl 3 swamp, high loss on lvl 10. no longer on just lvl 1 through 3 obviously either.