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    Its gay how archers are the only troops that matter
    i spent almost a year building up my armies, trying to make a strategic combination of the different troop types and then it all just gets smashed by some [removed] with 94000 archers (which doesnt make since to me because i have a tone of farms and i can only have about 60,000 troops total without losing food)
    if this game is just gonna be a contest of who can build the most archers without any strategy i dont think i can play it anymore
    man ive wasted alot of time on this game
    Last edited by Alusair; 10-06-2009 at 10:10 PM. Reason: language

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    yh.. good a strategic army is good... but in large numbers

    strageic priorities shift from time to time.. my third base was a cav city.. fourth base a phract city and fifth a ram city.. however i quit the game too early to reach the 100k rams milestone

    i used to possess arnd 200-250 k cavs and 120-150k phracts depending on the day

    trust me they have helped a lot..
    dumber forum.. sigh

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    On the whole, Evony is out of balance. the nature of armies and troop type versus troop type sometimes makes no sense whatsoever. What in God's green earth makes anyone think that tens of thousands of battering rams make sense as an attack force, for example? How can 100k archers engage 15k ballista and not suffer a single loss, for example?

    An army suitably mixed to take an L10 NPC is radically different than an army used to raid lower level NPC's is radically different than an army necessary to wage war against other players. L1 through L5 NPC's have value, but there is no reason at all to attack L7 through L9 NPC's, which leads to the question "why do they exist at all?

    BTW, I disagree with those who claim the "defensive advantage" is out of balance. It is probably less unfair than many other aspects of the game. Historically speaking, the reason fortified cities were built at all is PRECISELY because they offered SIGNIFICANT defensive advantage. But that's an argument for another time and place.

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    First of all, to you guys argueing along side of the OP. Please, do it elsewhere. You have at least slightly valid opinions, but to voice them under the retarded original post does you no justice. Now, responding to the initial post.

    Drak. You can't just build a bunch of farms and expect them to feed your troops. You need to be farming to feed them. Attacking Barbarian cities, attacking other players. You need to lose troops in order to establish player farms. The simple truth of it is that most people that have hundreds of thousands of troops produce very little of their own food.

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    TheRealNever is correct on the feeding issue. Also there are these things called valleys. Try them, and Politics heros, and technology bonus's, these all add up significantly. Heck in a single city i can hold over 100k archers along with layers atleast 5k thick without going into the red on food.

    But thats not the only thing thats wrong here:
    Quote Originally Posted by drakolov View Post
    Its gay how archers are the only troops that matter
    Incorrect. Send an Archer only army up against a Cav army and see what happens.
    That being said, yes archers are the most effective troop for *most* situations, but not all. You do have to have a mix of troops to be really effective and you have to know how and when to use them.

    i spent almost a year building up my armies
    No in fact you havent. Since the game hasnt been out that long. It was released in May which means that at the most you have spent 7 months playing this game and thats if you were one of us who started playing in the very begining. Which based on your post I doubt.

    man ive wasted alot of time on this game
    Then stop wasting your time because you obviously have since you havent learned much about it. Spend your time actually learning how to play effectively because honestly (and while it may sound like one this is NOT ment as an insult, just an observation) it sounds like you are one of the many many people who play this and have absolutly no clue how to really play.

    What i find funny is how much you will cry once you get a good archer defense and someone comes along with 100k rams and hits your city, wiping them out:
    http://ploader.net/files/6906871d346...3ef9c4a59e.gif
    Last edited by Quixote; 10-06-2009 at 04:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quixote View Post

    Incorrect. Send an Archer only army up against a Cav army and see what happens.
    thats a WIN
    dumber forum.. sigh

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    A lot has been answered.

    As stated, you can easily stop a mostly archer army quite easily.

    And I see one major problem you have. You think you need farms to feed troops. You need to think bigger.. You should be losing tens of millions of food an hour. Farms won't sustain that. You need to farm NPC's.

    If you send out 10 raids (lvl 10 rally point assumed) every 8 hours, you will bring in 90 million food in 24 hours. Still not enough to feed troops consuming over -10mil an hour, but do it from 10 villages and now you bring in 900 million food in a day..

    Think along those terms.. most people think small.. They think they need a ton of cottages, lots of farms and a few barracks. What you need are a 18 barracks, 7 cottages, 4-5 farms and the rest iron and lumber!

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    0 farms ftw
    dumber forum.. sigh

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    Quote Originally Posted by proxymater View Post
    0 farms ftw
    If I had only know that when I started, I'd be much happier today

    That's also why I'll be dumping my lvl 10 npc village shortly.. its all farms.. I'd rather steal a better player made city

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maytrix View Post
    If I had only know that when I started, I'd be much happier today

    That's also why I'll be dumping my lvl 10 npc village shortly.. its all farms.. I'd rather steal a better player made city
    A THUG is born!

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