Help!

[StormSurge]

Now, could you provide numbers with that?

I'm not a numbers guy, I'm a words dude. I mean, look at my awesome vocabulary, man. (No thesaurus used!)

[Skirata]

I'm not a numbers guy, I'm a words dude. I mean, look at my awesome vocabulary, man. (No thesaurus used!)

Too bad the judges will be focusing on numbers....

[KnightsGal]

The cost of coal varies depending on where it comes from. This is because coal contains different chemicals that make different emmisions when it burns. For example, coal from Illinois contains a lot of sulfer. It is cheaper, because power plants have to spend more on cleaning technology to meet emmision standards so it is not in as high of demand. Illinois has a lot of coal, but most of the coal burned in Illinois is shipped in from Wyoming, because Wyoming coal doesn't contain as much sulfer.

The price of one ton of coal ranges from $39 to $56. http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/coal/pa...lmar.html#spot

As for how much electricty a ton of coal can produce... That was a little harder to find. This is from yahoo answers, which isn't the most reliable source:

'the quality of coal varies widely, from 5000 to 8000 cal per gram. only about 25% of the coal heat translates into electrical output at a typical generation facility, so figure about 1.7 watts/hr per gram. In bigger units that would be 1 ton of coal can generate about 1500 kwh.'

Might have to do a bit more searching.

Hope I helped!

[King Alboin]

well i say if you think you can get away with it do this and say nothing. it will get your point across.

1 pick your nose
2 smear the bugger on the dias
3 take out a paper tissue
4 clean up the bugger with said tissue
5 throw tissue in a tissue recycle bin
6 smile at the judges

Reason:

the bugger represents poverty
the wiping on the dias represents what poverty does to the environment
the cleaning represents economic rescue to the environment
and the recyle bin is self explanatory
the smile represent hubris

[Skirata]

The cost of coal varies depending on where it comes from. This is because coal contains different chemicals that make different emmisions when it burns. For example, coal from Illinois contains a lot of sulfer. It is cheaper, because power plants have to spend more on cleaning technology to meet emmision standards so it is not in as high of demand. Illinois has a lot of coal, but most of the coal burned in Illinois is shipped in from Wyoming, because Wyoming coal doesn't contain as much sulfer.

The price of one ton of coal ranges from $39 to $56. http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/coal/pa...lmar.html#spot

As for how much electricty a ton of coal can produce... That was a little harder to find. This is from yahoo answers, which isn't the most reliable source:

'the quality of coal varies widely, from 5000 to 8000 cal per gram. only about 25% of the coal heat translates into electrical output at a typical generation facility, so figure about 1.7 watts/hr per gram. In bigger units that would be 1 ton of coal can generate about 1500 kwh.'

Might have to do a bit more searching.

Hope I helped!

Thanks man, helped a lot. Only problem is that it seems coal is a much more viable source of energy that wind, solar, and hydro.. I'll just leave that little piece of information out of the debate....

[Skirata]

DOUBLE POST FTW!

well i say if you think you can get away with it do this and say nothing. it will get your point across.

1 pick your nose
2 smear the bugger on the dias
3 take out a paper tissue
4 clean up the bugger with said tissue
5 throw tissue in a tissue recycle bin
6 smile at the judges

I'll do that right before I moon the judges.

[StormSurge]

Thanks man, helped a lot. Only problem is that it seems coal is a much more viable source of energy that wind, solar, and hydro.. I'll just leave that little piece of information out of the debate....

It's a limited resource, and if we center energy productions around it, then eventually we won't be able to use other sources of energy.

[Skirata]

It's a limited resource, and if we center energy productions around it, then eventually we won't be able to use other sources of energy.

That is true as well.




Well, I got 3:30 on my speech (without my snappy opening) so I am going to call it a night after I finish another episode of Xenosaga. Wish me luck!

[King Alboin]

luck luck luck

[KnightsGal]

"The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change uses economic models that assume that the world will not run out of coal. Some IPCC scenarios show 3.4 billion tons of coal being burned just through 2100. That’s more than five times what Rutledge thinks will be possible — and a good deal higher than the WEC’s estimate for recoverable coal reserves, too. "

We will run out of coal. Forunately, the wind will blow forever. I need to send you my paper on windmills...

Power costs for coal: 7.4 cents per KWh in 2008. Wind was 8.2 cents per KWh. However, the cost for coal power went up 43% from 2007 to 2008, whereas the cost for wind power went up only 13%. Coal might be cheaper right now, but it won't be that way for long.

http://www.meic.org/energy/global_wa...es-1/wind_cost