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    Exclamation Breaking the law

    This is to inform all players that this game is still in Beta and therefor it is misleading from the company to charge you for game coins giving the impression it is a full game.

    I have just spoken to my legal adviser and to the BBC Watchdog who confirmed that I can reclaim the money spent from UMGE regardless of their location. The BBC has also agreed to investigate this claim and wants all players affected by this (sadly only from the UK) to come forward via their webside and leave the details.

    I suggest you make a screenshot of the ToS, the system message you received today and the post here on the forum stating clearly that the game is out of beta. Phone your bank and cancel all payments made to this company and be prepared to lawyer up in case UMGE think they have a counter claim to make. The UK is offering a comsumer protection scheme where they will allocate you a legal representative under legal aid. Info about that you get at the BBC Watchdog and every Citizen Advice Bureau.

    I have also heard that there is a group of players planning a legal action suit against the company, but for that you need to dig yourself.

    Beta Testers are either free or paid to do the job - they never, ever have to pay for the priviledge. See Sega UK for more info since they have done something similar in the past and had to shell out millions in compensations and fines and now employ an army of testers.

    Needless to say is that I won't be part of this scam any longer.

    good luck

    Domo
    Last edited by Domokomo Neyo; 05-06-2009 at 11:22 AM.
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    You wasnt forced to buy game coin, so it is FREE.

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    lol they're optional. You -chose- to buy perks in the game. It's not like you were forced to pay to play the game at all. Anyone and everyone had the chance to play for free.

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    First off - who said anything about not being free? The game offered to buy coins to play as well - which is the offence. Beta's are not allowed to charge. End of story.

    the law was broken - like a scam artist will be charged for their crimes in a court of law, so will consumer frauds. It doesn't matter that the victim was a willing participant in the scam - not one court in the world would dismiss the charges against a law breaker because the victim acted in good faith and without being threatend. The company made a public announcement that it is out of Beta! If it had been in beta not many people would have parted with their money financing a game they thought was good = hence misleading or fraud by deception.

    I took great care to inform myself about this talking to a lawyer and advisers that deal with consumer complaint all day before making this post - since I am liable for the content. So I suggest you don't get involved in legal matters unless you are a lawyer for the company. It's time for the Mods to stay out of this as spin doctors for the company.
    Last edited by Domokomo Neyo; 05-06-2009 at 11:31 AM.
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    why is this in the Server 1 discussion?

    EDIT: And I am unaware of the law that states that beta's must be free. I believe that the fact that buying game coins in this game is optional invalidates your argument.
    Last edited by BBQ_Sauce; 05-06-2009 at 11:37 AM.

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    because I can't post it anywhere else - do your job and move it into the correct forum then



    I am not surprised - you aren't a lawyer, are you?
    Find out for yourself - call your CAB or consumer watchdog, they will tell you the wording of the specific law
    or you can wait till the creditback claims hit UMG big time

    I do like it though that the Mods jump right into the discussion even though no rules were broken
    Never seen it on any other board in my life!
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    My brother is a councellor for a big financial consortium - but I got my advise from another lawyer
    besides - the BBC Watchdog got onto the case right away - anybody who knows of it won't have a problem with the statement


    Funny - I alert people that they have been scammed - nothing but character defamations on my person
    I alert the players here that there are cheaters working with flash-injectors changing the values of the stats - I am told to go to a different server then

    you people don't want help, do you? You want to be scammed out of your trousers...

    very well - have it your way
    my money has just been confirmed to be in my account within 24hours - so why should I care?
    Last edited by Domokomo Neyo; 05-06-2009 at 11:45 AM.
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    Alright, this thread needs to be closed.
    Domo, you really need to stop instigating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domokomo Neyo View Post
    This is to inform all players that this game is still in Beta and therefor it is misleading from the company to charge you for game coins giving the impression it is a full game.

    I have just spoken to my legal adviser and to the BBC Watchdog who confirmed that I can reclaim the money spent from UMGE regardless of their location. The BBC has also agreed to investigate this claim and wants all players affected by this (sadly only from the UK) to come forward via their webside and leave the details.

    I suggest you make a screenshot of the ToS, the system message you received today and the post here on the forum stating clearly that the game is out of beta. Phone your bank and cancel all payments made to this company and be prepared to lawyer up in case UMGE think they have a counter claim to make. The UK is offering a comsumer protection scheme where they will allocate you a legal representative under legal aid. Info about that you get at the BBC Watchdog and every Citizen Advice Bureau.

    I have also heard that there is a group of players planning a legal action suit against the company, but for that you need to dig yourself.

    Beta Testers are either free or paid to do the job - they never, ever have to pay for the priviledge. See Sega UK for more info since they have done something similar in the past and had to shell out millions in compensations and fines and now employ an army of testers.

    Needless to say is that I won't be part of this scam any longer.

    good luck

    Domo
    From what I have read there will be no data loss from the beta to the "real" game, AKA you wont have to start over. Since this is the case your money spent will actually be usable in the "live" version of the game which means you haven't technically been scammed out of anything.

    Just a thought.

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    Funny thing about the internet.... there are no international laws
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