Ccc

[abracax]

yeah, a few hundred accounts, ok. but assuming he really has changed, HE WOULDNT DO IT ANYMORE. that is what the point is. and kicking a dog is hardly the same thing. everyone keeps comparing what ccc did to real world violence, when it isn't a good comparison. its an online forum. its the INTERNET. it is hardly as big a deal as if he killed a million people or attacking an animal.

How many times would you let me kick your dog before you had enough? And if I apologized would you let me near your dog again, or would you just keep me away from your dog for it's safety?

[TheEclipse]

How many times would you let me kick your dog before you had enough? And if I apologized would you let me near your dog again, or would you just keep me away from your dog for it's safety?

i answer your question by quoting myself:

yeah, a few hundred accounts, ok. but assuming he really has changed, HE WOULDNT DO IT ANYMORE. that is what the point is. and kicking a dog is hardly the same thing. everyone keeps comparing what ccc did to real world violence, when it isn't a good comparison. its an online forum. its the INTERNET. it is hardly as big a deal as if he killed a million people or attacking an animal.

[joemanf]

I have a hard time understanding why some people are fighting for CCC to have yet another chance.

Here is what I know about CCC:

After his first account was banned for trolling and insulting members of the forum and staff he continued to create account after account sometimes up to 30 of them in one day. Each account he made, the first thing he would do is use foul language to insult a member of staff or a member of the forum. As soon as his new account would be deleted he would, within minutes, be right back doing the same thing all over again.

This is over the period of a few months. Not just once, not just twice. If you total it up he has had a few HUNDRED accounts that he did this with. If he really was sorry for what he did then why would he have taken it so far? After the first 20 if he apologized and showed remorse, I am sure the staff would give it a second thought and possibly let him become a member of the community once again.

We are talking several hundred times he has done this people. What is there to debate?
How about I come over to your house and kick your dog several hundred times, would you let me back in if I said I was sorry? Give me a break, there is nothing to debate here except how fast you think mods can ban his new accounts.

Abra, the guy wants another chance. I think he is truely sorry.

Underlined: Abra, I was one of his victems. He spammed me, posted extreamly rude pictures of Jesus, and insulted my beliefs until my keyboard was ruined from an over access of tears. However, I've seen past that, and forgave him a long time ago.

Bold: Actully, I would, if I knew you were truely sorry. Not because I hate my dog (which I don't, I love him very much), but because I knew you were truely sorry, and because I am willing to give almost anyone a second chance.

Abra, look into your heart, and see it from his perspective. You know you want to forgive him, and you know it's the right thing to do.

[Rodri]

What makes you think he has changed?
Server 52 discussion has been spammed today, after this new account got banned.
There may be more spam on the server forums for all I know.

He posted in Help & Questions first with this new account. Basically, "what would you do if I said I was ccc?"
My reply was /ignore.
That got a mini spam to my inbox.
He must have decided to back off because he deleted 2 of 3 messages before I read them. Obviously the urges are still there, just under the surface.

I wouldn't be suprised to find he was monitoring this thread and enjoying all the soul searching and bleeding hearts. Personally, I will just keep ignoring him.

[ABakker]

How many times would you let me kick your dog before you had enough? And if I apologized would you let me near your dog again, or would you just keep me away from your dog for it's safety?

Abra, thats pretty cruel saying Evony's forums are a dog lol (jk).

The point is, we aren't keeping him away from the dog. He constantly has access to the dog, so the question then becomes allow him to continue to kick the dog, or out of decent manners, accept the apology and try to reform?

[joemanf]

What makes you think he has changed?
Server 52 discussion has been spammed today, after this new account got banned.
There may be more spam on the server forums for all I know.

He posted in Help & Questions first with this new account. Basically, "what would you do if I said I was ccc?"
My reply was /ignore.
That got a mini spam to my inbox.
He must have decided to back off because he deleted 2 of 3 messages before I read them. Obviously the urges are still there, just under the surface.

I wouldn't be suprised to find he was monitoring this thread and enjoying all the soul searching and bleeding hearts. Personally, I will just keep ignoring him.

He PM'd me, telling me that. However, that was before he posted this applogy. Get yer facts right.

[TheEclipse]

Abra, thats pretty cruel saying Evony's forums are a dog lol (jk).

The point is, we aren't keeping him away from the dog. He constantly has access to the dog, so the question then becomes allow him to continue to kick the dog, or out of decent manners, accept the apology and try to reform?

one of the points im trying to make

Abra, the guy wants another chance. I think he is truely sorry.

Underlined: Abra, I was one of his victems. He spammed me, posted extreamly rude pictures of Jesus, and insulted my beliefs until my keyboard was ruined from an over access of tears. However, I've seen past that, and forgave him a long time ago.

Bold: Actully, I would, if I knew you were truely sorry. Not because I hate my dog (which I don't, I love him very much), but because I knew you were truely sorry, and because I am willing to give almost anyone a second chance.

Abra, look into your heart, and see it from his perspective. You know you want to forgive him, and you know it's the right thing to do.

i was one of his victims as well, and i have no hard feelings over it. we as humans need to learn to forgive and forget.

you can also tell when a person is sincerely sorry. and giving people a second chance is the right thing to do.

[Rodri]

Ok so he spammed the server 52 forum first, then came asking to be forgiven.
That means he must be sincere.

[ABakker]

joe, it does seem you have that backwards lol. That appears to be his typical retaliation spam though.

[joemanf]

Ok so he spammed the server 52 forum first, then came asking to be forgiven.
That means he must be sincere.

I'm not apprecheiating the sarcasam. If you don't think he's sorry, then I won't force you to.