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    WRONG! What doesnt make sense, is to think that people who cannot make THIS game work correctly, can/will make Age II work correctly.

    What doesnt make sense, is to confuse a browser based game, with a full fledged commercial release wherein updates over time automatically render the previous release obsolete via hardware change, graphics/audio enhancements etc. Fallensword for ex, has been around for HOW long? Yet it still functions though it has gone through numerous updates and enhancements. HCS, has at least HALF a clue. Can not say the same for this ragtag outfit however.

    What doesnt make sense, is for people with no idea of what they speak, to consistently defend a company which has no idea how to treat its users.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarge33rd View Post
    What doesnt make sense, is for people with no idea of what they speak, to consistently defend a company which has no idea how to treat its users.
    You dont know what you're talkin' about,
    complaining on here won't bring a revolution...
    Try suggestion forum or how about call up the company themselves?

    Cuz whining N' crying here won't help change anything, baby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarge33rd View Post
    WRONG! What doesnt make sense, is to think that people who cannot make THIS game work correctly, can/will make Age II work correctly.
    I see, so based on your line of reasoning then, FORD couldnt possibly make a decent car because they made the pinto which was a complete piece of junk death trap.

    I`m sure nintendo never made a decent game either because some of their first games were pretty lame.

    But anyhow, yeah if i was you i wouldnt give them the honor and privledge of having yourself as a player of their game, I would leave and not post on their forums ever again, that will teach them.
    It is good that war is so terrible or we should grow too fond of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by nbforrest View Post
    I see, so based on your line of reasoning then, FORD couldnt possibly make a decent car because they made the pinto which was a complete piece of junk death trap.

    I`m sure nintendo never made a decent game either because some of their first games were pretty lame.

    But anyhow, yeah if i was you i wouldnt give them the honor and privledge of having yourself as a player of their game, I would leave and not post on their forums ever again, that will teach them.
    I'm just curious when you will have sufficient B-days behind you, to have 2 digits in your age? To compare a browser based PC game with a hard good, is laughable in its own right. That you fail to see the logical differences between the two product lines; illustrates how little value should be placed on your post(s).

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarge33rd View Post
    I'm just curious when you will have sufficient B-days behind you, to have 2 digits in your age? To compare a browser based PC game with a hard good, is laughable in its own right. That you fail to see the logical differences between the two product lines; illustrates how little value should be placed on your post(s).
    Actually his use of ford and nintendo make splendid examples of what some ppl seem to think.. while true this game is entirely browser based, his examples would still apply
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightfang View Post
    Actually his use of ford and nintendo make splendid examples of what some ppl seem to think.. while true this game is entirely browser based, his examples would still apply
    No they do not. Perhaps in peoples minds, but the consumer has been shown to be a fool on many occasions.

    This is a fully self-contained soft good. Completely updateable, without the consumer having to physically take possession.

    The automobile comparative fails in that it is a hard good, which leaves the company upon purchase. The company cannot upgrade it, without the consumer physically returning the product and even then upgrades would be limited to what would be physically viable.

    The nintendo comparative fails, in that a separate physical game cartridge is simply not the same thing as a browser based game. While both are games, the one version is hard coded and in the consumers possession. The other, is hard coded true, but on hardware maintained by the company. The company is in the latter case, fully able to execute upgrades/updates without the consumer having to turn over their physical copy.

    The two types of products are no more alike, than are beef on the hoof and garden goods grown in your backyard. Both are food, but neither is the same as the other.

    As I said, a valid comparative would be Travian, or Fallensword or any of the myriad of other browser based past times out there. Virtually all of which, experience superior customer service, superior user satisfaction and superior gaming experience than does Evony. And ALL of them, cost substantially less if you wish to "pay to play". Indicating that my contention of providing a valuable product and THEN realizing valuable sales....holds water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarge33rd View Post
    No they do not. Perhaps in peoples minds, but the consumer has been shown to be a fool on many occasions.

    This is a fully self-contained soft good. Completely updateable, without the consumer having to physically take possession.

    The automobile comparative fails in that it is a hard good, which leaves the company upon purchase. The company cannot upgrade it, without the consumer physically returning the product and even then upgrades would be limited to what would be physically viable.

    The nintendo comparative fails, in that a separate physical game cartridge is simply not the same thing as a browser based game. While both are games, the one version is hard coded and in the consumers possession. The other, is hard coded true, but on hardware maintained by the company. The company is in the latter case, fully able to execute upgrades/updates without the consumer having to turn over their physical copy.

    The two types of products are no more alike, than are beef on the hoof and garden goods grown in your backyard. Both are food, but neither is the same as the other.

    As I said, a valid comparative would be Travian, or Fallensword or any of the myriad of other browser based past times out there. Virtually all of which, experience superior customer service, superior user satisfaction and superior gaming experience than does Evony. And ALL of them, cost substantially less if you wish to "pay to play". Indicating that my contention of providing a valuable product and THEN realizing valuable sales....holds water.
    lol a bit long winded but has nothing to do with wat me an forest were talking about.. basically the gist of what we saying is just cuz 1 game made by a company (ie evony) sucks on multiple lvls doesnt mean another later version (in this case ageII) will also.. hence his ford and nintendo examples
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    both sides (nbforrest, and the OP) make good points. The OP is stating that the lack of (decent working) updates to Age 1 (they have made updates like new packages and vacation mode.... yet those never seem to work like they should, or they drive us nuts like the flashing quest button) shows how Evony more then likely will not produce Age 2 to be a decently running program. NBForrest makes a good point though that we should try to have some faith that errors will be corrected in the future.

    Either way I see it here, I find the argument between you two a bit pointless, but constructive non the less. Both sides adding a good feel as to informing people.

    Now personally, I have many doubts about Age 2 and Evony itself. Evony has a very poor track record, and trying to defend it along the lines of it producing a working Age 2 is very difficult. Not to mention a lack of knowledge about anything about Age 2 except the words "We are working on Evony, Age 2" makes it very difficult to believe alot of what is said. Considering they said that all the way back in July (was informed it was announce when Civony became Evony, I think that was the begginning of June, now informed of the exact date.05-07-2009 to be exact. ) also hurts alot because it only now seems like they might be kicking it into decent gear by hiring graphic designers and VP. When you also add in that many times when people would call out a bug, it was always said that the issue will be resolved in Age 2, and that was many months ago. Overall, it becomes more a question of time because as each day passes, Evony gets that much closer to dying out being surpassed by many other games along the same lines of Evony.
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    Wow guys, I've never really seen people this angry about a pasttime since a Halo 2 bug. Look at your own posts, especially the OP. Hopefully, you'll realize you're screaming because a game you use in your spare time isn't perfect enough.

    *Sigh*

    Is it really that hard just to quit silently and fade away? Various threads have been made on how Evony isn't updating anything and how Age II isn't out yet, and they all have the same arguments. Think up something original, and maybe you'll get a better conversation instead of yelling about low medal drop rates.

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